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Thread: Who's at fault?

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    The smaller boat was the agressor, firing prop foulers and stink bombs at the ship. The ship has every right to defend itself...


    too bad none of those idiots drowned.
    What you feel & what is the law are two different things.....
    A larger ship that is not in danger does not have the right to cause a collision under any circumstances....
    If there were loss of life, the captain of the larger vessel would have neen charged with manslaughter at the very least.....
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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    What you feel & what is the law are two different things.....
    A larger ship that is not in danger does not have the right to cause a collision under any circumstances....
    If there were loss of life, the captain of the larger vessel would have neen charged with manslaughter at the very least.....
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    Ship was in danger. They can use that idiotic show as evidence of agression.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    [QUOTE=Reverend_Hellh0und;1058474609]Ship was in danger. They can use that idiotic show as evidence of agression.[/QUOTE]

    That will not be enough to justify it in court.....
    The ramming ship was never in danger, & is clealy, "at fault".....

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    [quote=Partisan;1058474617]
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Ship was in danger. They can use that idiotic show as evidence of agression.[/QUOTE]

    That will not be enough to justify it in court.....
    The ramming ship was never in danger, & is clealy, "at fault".....



    Did you see the pic?


    If I saw that being aimed at my ship, I'd open fire. A clear threat





    Ships Collide In Antarctic Whaling Clash - CBS News

    "The Institute of Cetacean Research, the non-profit organization that conducts the hunt, said the Ady Gil came "within collision distance" of the Nisshin Maru's bow and repeatedly dangled a rope in the water that could have entangled the ship's rudder and propeller.

    The Ady Gil's crew lobbed small projectiles designed to release a foul smell, and the whalers responded by firing high-powered hoses to keep the Sea Shepherd vessels away, the institute said in a statement. "




    clearly the Japanese ship was in the right to ram those assholes. To bad they didn't drown.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Wasn't it you who supported murdering an abortion provider to stop him from conducting his business? Does that make you a loon?
    Terminating an abortionist saves possibly thousands of lives.

    It's no different than killing a mugger attacking a little old lady, unless that old lady voted for Obama.

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Pirates??? ..LOL

    They're protesters ..not pirates ..not terrorists ..not any other inflammatory label people use when they disagree with the politics of the protesting group.
    Perhaps not normal pirates, but I've seen the show and a couple of those activists are definitely butt pirates.
    ...this post brought to you by the United States government, "working hard to solve yesterday's problems as we strive to create the crises for a new tomorrow."


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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    I'm gonna go with "You can't deliberately cause a collision", under any circumstances, especially in open sea.....
    If it were a narrow navigable channel, the larger ship would have right of way, not the case here....
    As far as whales, are they really needed as a foodstuff?......
    It's one of those things that should be regulated enough to not make it economically viable, IMO.....
    Yes, the operator of the smaller more agile craft is under legal obligation to avoid placing his vessel in position to collide with the larger vessel. That's as true in the open sea as it is in narrow navigable channels.

    When I sail to Catalina, I don't dawdle in the shipping lanes. They're "open ocean", but the damn freighters:

    a) Can't see me.
    b) Aren't looking for me.
    c) Won't know if they've hit me
    d) Forget about the freighters, it will hurt.

    All I can say about this Ady Gil crew is that if they're going to insist on starting fights, they can't expect any sympathy when they lose them. I'm not going to feel sorry for terrorists, ever.

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Pirates??? ..LOL

    They're protesters ..not pirates ..not terrorists ..not any other inflammatory label people use when they disagree with the politics of the protesting group.
    They're terrorists and pirates.

    You're failure to use words correctly isn't our concern.

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    According to the definition provided earlier in this thread, politics isn't a required motive.
    That's nice.

    Acts of terrorism are commited to primarily infuence the behavior and opinion of another group of people. Terrorists, unlike robbers, are motivated by something besides self-aggrandizement.

    Unless you're saying the Sea Shepherd terrorists are trying to steal whalemeat from the whalers, they're actions are consistent with the defintion of terrorists, not bank robbers.

    However, if you want to insist that bank robbers are also terrorists, then you can't claim the Sea Shepherd people are not terrorists.

    You're not used to logical thought, I see.

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    Re: Who's at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I like whales, dolphins and sharks etc. Probably because I am a professional level diver. I love the ocean. The Japanese are out of control and hunting certain sea animals into extinction.

    Being a diver I have no respect for a fishing fleet that catches sharks, cuts off the fins and throws the rest of the animal back to slowly drown.

    If they all got blown up tomorrow, the world would be better off.

    As for the OP, yes the Japanese fishermen are correct to defend themselves.

    No, hunting whales is so unnecessary.
    And there's a post I can agree with 100%

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