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  • National sales tax - don't spend, you don't pay taxes

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Thread: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I guess its just too bad we have a $14 trillion dollar debt that we are barely keeping up with and now 1 out 7 Americans are now below the poverty line. But hey, it sure is nice the wealthy are doing so well, huh? But sure, try to pile even more of the tax burden on the middle class through a flat tax, fuel the class war even more.
    so its your position that as long as there is a deficit-caused by a government elected mainly by the middle class-it is the duty of the top 2 percent to pay more and more taxes to take care of all the problems the majority has caused?

    get a clue-as long as the masses dont suffer tax increases to deal with the idiotic spending they clamor for, the masses will have no incentive to stop irresponsible spending



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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I'm afraid it does.
    the whole point of the discussion was whether or not he was some Giant Exception (you said because of years of accumulation).
    But it turns out That..
    1. He even was able to accumulate that money DUE to lower capital gains rates vs Income tax rates.
    2. He's NOT an exception, but has made the challenge to the Forbes 400 CEOs. NONE of whom took him up on it.
    3. The Wharton professor who wrote artice, not coincidentally, found the same thing in his office/staff.
    Oh - you're trying to take my post and apply it to the original point of the thread. If I was trying to argue for or against something I would have done so quite bluntly. I was merely adding in what seemed to be missing from some of the arguments presented.

    There's more to someone's 'rich' status than their annual income - take away his annual income and he's still a rich bastard
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How very typical of the elitist attitude sitting back sucking up to corporations and suckling upon them for enrichment. You could not care less that these billion dollar corporations find ways to cheat the American people and the American government as long as you get what you feel is yours from them. That type of attitude is what is killing America.

    And at what rate did you pay these taxes on your investment?
    what idiocy-you dislike those of us who invest

    socialist drivel again



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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes it is exactly because we are taxing the rich too little. The progressive tax system designed by our forefathers has been gutted with a huge transfer of the taxation for the wealthiest to the middle class. Please explain the voodoo economics that you surely must employ to claim that shifting more of the tax burden from the upper class to the middle class has no effect on the income gap?
    spoken like someone consumed with envy

    taxing the rich to slake the spite of people like you won't make the middle class more productive or more competitive.

    telling the middle class that taxing the rich more will make them better off is why the middle class is not as competitive as it should be



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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Regardless of how much is taken from the rich and redistributed to the poor - the gap between these two brackets of income is growing wider - the poor are just as poor as ever before and the rich get richer.
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Regardless of how much is taken from the rich and redistributed to the poor - the gap between these two brackets of income is growing wider - the poor are just as poor as ever before and the rich get richer.
    that is because the global economy is changing and those who engage in poor choices that prevent them from gaining the information now needed to compete fall behind because being stupid and strong won't get you good wages like it once did


    a study was recently posted here and on other forums noting that if someone DOES NOT flunk out of HS and does NOT engage in breeding before marriage, that person has less than a one out of 20 chance of being impoverished.



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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Regardless of how much is taken from the rich and redistributed to the poor - the gap between these two brackets of income is growing wider - the poor are just as poor as ever before and the rich get richer.
    the poor in the USA have a far higher standard of living than at any time in history and a far higher standard than those in most nations. so while the tax hike advocates constantly carp about the growing gap, they fail to note the actual living conditions of the poor-



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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the poor in the USA have a far higher standard of living than at any time in history and a far higher standard than those in most nations. so while the tax hike advocates constantly carp about the growing gap, they fail to note the actual living conditions of the poor-
    What are the actual living conditions of the poor?

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    What are the actual living conditions of the poor?
    most in the USA have tv sets, cars , cell phones running water, air conditioning etc.

    ever been to Africa or South America?



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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    What are the actual living conditions of the poor?
    Being poor is when your widescreen plasma TV is too big for the room it's in.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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