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  • Income tax - no changes in the status quo

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  • Flat tax - Everyone pays the same %

    67 34.01%
  • National sales tax - don't spend, you don't pay taxes

    47 23.86%
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Thread: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    This has to be the worst idea in a world of bad ideas. So we want to discourage savings and have America be more of a consumer society. Exactly the remedy to fix the economy we used for the last 25 years with such horrible results.

    While this would no doubt make accountants rich, this is nuts. Would this tax be annual, so that after 7 years ou would have nothing left or a one shot deal so you have to find a way to shift wealth from one year to another.
    Agreed, that would be difficult to enforce, but more then that it would kill the economy. If someone makes money, tax when they recieve it, but it makes no sense to penalize someone for saving instead of blowing their money immedietly.
    But if you are concerned with large concentrations of wealth through a family, then a strong inheritance tax could do the trick more effectively then a "wealth tax"

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A tax on wealth, along the lines of what was once proposed by Donald Trump himself, is badly needed. Trump wanted a tax of 14.25% on all wealth above ten million dollars back in 1999.
    that would probably doom his political aspirations or him personally. Its a moronic idea



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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Income tax - Currently the only viable way to get the income we need

    Flat tax - Bad Bad Bad idea. This is a regresive tax. The lower your income the higher percent of disposible income that will be spent on basic needs. It almost guarantees lower and middle class will never make to the top.

    National Sales tax - Even worse than a flat tax. Thank about it. Your only taxed when you spend so what will people not do. . . SPEND.

    No tax - Not an option.

    Instead of trying to kill this dead horse we should work on making America better at international traid, reduce spending and enforce the tax laws we currently have.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Income tax - Currently the only viable way to get the income we need

    Flat tax - Bad Bad Bad idea. This is a regresive tax. The lower your income the higher percent of disposible income that will be spent on basic needs. It almost guarantees lower and middle class will never make to the top.

    National Sales tax - Even worse than a flat tax. Thank about it. Your only taxed when you spend so what will people not do. . . SPEND.

    No tax - Not an option.

    Instead of trying to kill this dead horse we should work on making America better at international traid, reduce spending and enforce the tax laws we currently have.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...pay-taxes.html
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    mbig,

    Please include a segway. Im not sure what your point is.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    mbig,

    Please include a segway. Im not sure what your point is.
    I was Pointing to my string/posts of last night, Agreeing with you and elaborating WHY Fairtax/Flattax was a bad idea and why Progressive income tax was a good idea.
    Baffled as to your reply not seeing that.
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Income tax - Currently the only viable way to get the income we need

    Flat tax - Bad Bad Bad idea. This is a regresive tax. The lower your income the higher percent of disposible income that will be spent on basic needs. It almost guarantees lower and middle class will never make to the top.

    National Sales tax - Even worse than a flat tax. Thank about it. Your only taxed when you spend so what will people not do. . . SPEND.

    No tax - Not an option.

    Instead of trying to kill this dead horse we should work on making America better at international traid, reduce spending and enforce the tax laws we currently have.
    whats so bad about people spending less money? In fact once the economy recovers that will be good. Its a common understanding that one of the long run problems with the US is that our saving rate is too low.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    whats so bad about people spending less money? In fact once the economy recovers that will be good. Its a common understanding that one of the long run problems with the US is that our saving rate is too low.
    There are many economic studies regarding this. For proof though look at what the AVT did to europe.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I was Pointing to my string/posts of last night, Agreeing with you and elaborating WHY Fairtax/Flattax was a bad idea and why Progressive income tax was a good idea.
    Baffled as to your reply not seeing that.
    I think that was my point as well. Please explain what point we disagree on.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    I think that was my point as well. Please explain what point we disagree on.
    Yikes! This is Excruciating.

    We DON'T "disagree". I never said or suggested that.
    Again, I pointed to my String/posts both agreeing and Elaborating WHY I agree.
    Giving fuller explanations than your single sentences above.
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