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  • Income tax - no changes in the status quo

    39 19.80%
  • Flat tax - Everyone pays the same %

    67 34.01%
  • National sales tax - don't spend, you don't pay taxes

    47 23.86%
  • No tax - Unconstitutional - rely on private donations

    10 5.08%
  • Other - explain

    21 10.66%
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Thread: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I point out the flaws with your ****ty report and you ignore those points, instead trying to bolster your report's credibility by citing a study from the same think tank? One that still ignores the point we're discussing (employment) in favor of the unrelated "overall spending"?

    Also worth noting that it's a think tank that defines itself as follows:



    and which your article notes is "the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think-tank based in Washington."

    Yea, it doesn't sound like they have a dog in the hunt at all.

    I also find it amusing that you don't even bat an eyelash at the fact that the article acknowledges the general consensus among economists that mandated wage increases decrease overall employment.
    You'll get used to it, that's the way Catawba likes to play: ignores inconvenient facts and highlights his own agenda. Nice work pointing it out plainly.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You'll get used to it, that's the way Catawba likes to play: ignores inconvenient facts and highlights his own agenda. Nice work pointing it out plainly.
    to be honest, almost everyone exposes themselves primarily to partisan leanings, so its pointless to bring it up
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I also find it amusing that you don't even bat an eyelash at the fact that the article acknowledges the general consensus among economists that mandated wage increases decrease overall employment.
    Supposing this is true, is it a good thing to simply "have more jobs?" I mean, I found a pay stub from one of my Dad's jobs during the 30's depression. He was making 38 cents an hour. Would it be a good thing to simply remove the minimum wage, and allow employers to beat up workers like that again?

    So, you've got full employment - I mean something like 2.9% jobless rate - and... nobody's got any money left over to buy new cars, big-screen TV's, maybe not even an Ipod. Maybe people are demanding that their workplace install showers, so they can get cleaned up before they go to work, because there's no shower where they live, which is under the railroad bridge on the other side of town.

    There's something to be said, I think, for making it illegal to beat up workers with predatory wages anywhere in the USA. If you can't pay someone $7.50 an hour, then maybe the enterprise you have in mind isn't really worth doing.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    to be honest, almost everyone exposes themselves primarily to partisan leanings, so its pointless to bring it up
    There are those of us who will admit when they are wrong or when they have been presented information that causes them to change their mind. Catawba is not one of these people. He'll just change the subject and keep on moving forward. Nice of you to stick up for him though.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    There are those of us who will admit when they are wrong or when they have been presented information that causes them to change their mind. Catawba is not one of these people. He'll just change the subject and keep on moving forward. Nice of you to stick up for him though.
    Him and I are dying breeds. Rightism must be stopped
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Him and I are dying breeds. Rightism must be stopped
    It makes your position illegitimate. It makes you illegitimate.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It makes your position illegitimate. It makes you illegitimate.
    im completely joking with you dude. This is a theory forum, and not a "this is what im going to do at gunpoint" forum.
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    im completely joking with you dude. This is a theory forum, and not a "this is what im going to do at gunpoint" forum.
    Did I forget a smilie? Damn! Anyway, the left doesn't own guns, so I'm not worried...
    Last edited by reefedjib; 01-12-10 at 08:14 AM.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Did I forget a smilie? Damn! Anyway, the left doesn't own guns, so I'm not worried...
    My calibre left absolutely does....
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    My calibre left absolutely does....
    Then there is the issue of whether I am a rightist. If you are a fascist and I disagree with you then I guess I am. Funny, I have never thought of myself that way...

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