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  • Income tax - no changes in the status quo

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  • Flat tax - Everyone pays the same %

    67 34.01%
  • National sales tax - don't spend, you don't pay taxes

    47 23.86%
  • No tax - Unconstitutional - rely on private donations

    10 5.08%
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    21 10.66%
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Thread: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    I support a flat income tax for anyone above the poverty line IF there were no loopholes whatsoever for anyone above the poverty line to get out of paying it.
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I support a flat income tax for anyone above the poverty line IF there were no loopholes whatsoever for anyone above the poverty line to get out of paying it.
    Define loophole.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    I favor a progressive income tax - although with more tax brackets than we have now and the upper brackets paying more than they do currently.
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I want a simplified progressive income tax.

    A flat tax is too regressive against the poor, while a national sales tax won't bring in enough tax revenue.
    a national sales tax discourages consumption as well, which is not always a good thing.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Everyone should pay the same % tax, thats the only fair thing. Even if you make 1 dollar a year of a trillion dollar per year.

    Furthermore, that tax should be defined permanently within a minimum and maximum percentage.

    Furthermore the state should never be able to run deficits and surplus. They should spend all the cash, no more, no less.
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I want a simplified progressive income tax.

    A flat tax is too regressive against the poor, while a national sales tax won't bring in enough tax revenue.
    Thats something the social system would take care off.
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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    I'm not sure because if we had a flat tax than too many people would say that the rich are not paying enough and that the poor are suffer the most.
    If we had a national sales tax then what are we expecting to pay for basic stuff? If we want the government we have now we'd have to tax goods at a high percentage that would hurt businesses and that would cause a huge unemployment level.
    If we had no tax then can we really trust that the people would not commit crime? No, because a crime free society is not realistic. There will always be crime and we will always need the law enforcement to arrest those people.

    But I voted for no tax until we have gotten back control of the government from the control freaks who run it.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    A graduated income tax is overly intrusive.

    A flat tax is most fair, but still intrusive since the government must still inquire into your finances.

    A sales tax is least intrusive and offers the individual the option of not paying taxes.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    I'm all for a flat income tax. Lacking that a National Sales/Consumption tax sounds appetizing.

    Has anyone thought of making a Carbon/Consumption tax? A VAT, but value measured by carbon emissions, sounds like an interesting meld of environmentalism and free market perspective.
    Don't tax my carbon!

    The concept of a carbon tax is plainly total bull****.

    Taxation's only legitimate purpose is collection of revenue for Constitutional government operations.

    Taxing carbon is a lame attempt at behavior modification and that sort of thing is not consistent with a free society.

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    Re: Income tax; Flat tax; National Sales tax; No tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    How can taxes be unconstitutional when there's a whole constitutional amendment designed to allow them?

    EDIT: Not to mention the clause in Article 1 Section 8


    Also, I voted income tax. It could use some changes, but I still prefer it over the alternatives.
    Article 1 Section 8 DOES NOT permit taxation of income.

    That's why the Sixteenth Amendment was foisted on us. In the 1800's and pre-FDR 1900's the courts used to take their jobs seriously.
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