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Are Americans Brainwashed?

Are Americans Brainwashed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 43.5%
  • No

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 12 19.4%

  • Total voters
    62
No, it's the liberals. No, it's the conservatives. I've got a better one: it's anyone who says either "no it's the liberals or no it's the conservatives." Those are the folks that are brainwashed.
 
haha the guy at 1:00 reminds me of Bill from Left 4 Dead. PILLS HERE!!! PI PI PI PILLS HERE!!!
 
I watched 6 mins 58 seconds of it. Personally I think this thread should be moved to the conspiracy section of this forum.

Just because it challenges what you hear on MSNBC or Fox News doesn't mean it's some wack job conspiracy theory. Sometimes you have to think a little different. If you haven't noticed, their are alot of "sheeple" in this country and around the world. I'm not talking about people on sites like this one who are active in politics and want to help better the country. We are talking about the people who walk the streets and can't even name the 3 branches of government or can't even point to Asia on a map...

Just think how better the world would be if people turned off American Idle for a moment and researched political events or wrote to their congressional member.
 
Just think how better the world would be if people turned off American Idle for a moment and researched political events or wrote to their congressional member.

:rofl, im not sure if that was deliberate or not, but it's funny
 
:rofl, im not sure if that was deliberate or not, but it's funny

Well the show seems to attract people who idle / sit on the sofa in a trance so American 'Idle' speaks more volume :)
 
Americans are not brain washed---they are drip dried---to short to shake it.
Some Americans are brainwashed.
Many are illiterate.
But all of this has no meaning.
The poll is silly and too controlling.
No vote.
 
The poll is silly and too controlling.

How is it silly and controlling? You have essentially every option possible, just vote other.
 
We are brainwashed every single day.

I didn't watch the video though so idk what exactly you are talking about.
 
Just because it challenges what you hear on MSNBC or Fox News doesn't mean it's some wack job conspiracy theory. Sometimes you have to think a little different. If you haven't noticed, their are alot of "sheeple" in this country and around the world. I'm not talking about people on sites like this one who are active in politics and want to help better the country. We are talking about the people who walk the streets and can't even name the 3 branches of government or can't even point to Asia on a map...

Just think how better the world would be if people turned off American Idle for a moment and researched political events or wrote to their congressional member.

I disagree with the member who said we are all brainwashed. I don't buy that because some still have a good grounding in both history and critical thinking, and do not accept what they read or hear without question. Toward that end, where you research is as important as doing it. Those without at least a reasonable grounding in American history are far too likely to accept what some wingnut site puts out as fact. Evenmoreso if the site has nice graphics and pretty graphs and charts.

I do agree that it is important to inform ourselves and that means not ONLY watching the fluff or reading the daily comic strips. It is also important to know the source and credentials of those putting the website up or the publication out and it is important to follow the money. Bias is okay but it should be bias formed from solid information and not from propaganda and/or wishful ideology.

In all cases, everybody should be learning both sides of every issue until we are proficient enough to argue either side with equal competence. Only then can we say with confidence that our opinion is informed.

An informed opinion always supercedes any effort at brainwashing.
 
As brainwashed as I believe most liberals are, one has to certainly respect any person who has the balls to ardently stand for a political philosophy, whether they were indoctrinated into it or not. The people who I think are pathetic are those who claim to be "centrists" and "independents." Generally speaking, not only are these people not very bright, but they, rather stupidly, feel as though their political indifference confers magnanimity.

If you have an IQ higher than that of a garden gnome, you're either a left-winger or a right-winger. All this I'm-in-the-middle nonsense is, generally, for educable retards.
 
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As brainwashed as I believe most liberals are, one has to certainly respect any person who has the balls to ardently stand for a political philosophy, whether they were indoctrinated into it or not.

This is not true.

I was definitely not "indoctrinated" as you say. Living in a very religious, very tight-knit community I was brainwashed with extremely conservative ideals. I was forced to be religious, even though I did not want to. I was fed very narrow-minded views on sexuality, family, and just life in general.

It was only after I graduate Magna Cum Laude, after joining the Army in 2003, after traveling the world in all 7 continents, only then did my world open up, only then had I found myself. After these amazing experiences I don't consider myself a liberal for political reasons, I say that I am a liberal person, I am an open-minded, educated person, who refuses to be tied down with controlling ideals. I died graciously on the battlefield in 2007, with a note in my hand that said ... "true happiness is found in the liberal mind."

See? I can make up some bullsh*t too.
 
As brainwashed as I believe most liberals are, one has to certainly respect any person who has the balls to ardently stand for a political philosophy, whether they were indoctrinated into it or not. The people who I think are pathetic are those who claim to be "centrists" and "independents." Generally speaking, not only are these people not very bright, but they, rather stupidly, feel as though their political indifference confers magnanimity.

If you have an IQ higher than that of a garden gnome, you're either a left-winger or a right-winger. All this I'm-in-the-middle nonsense is, generally, for educable retards.

Do you even know what the words "centrist" or "independent" mean? Or are you just a perfect example of what I said in my other post in this thread?
 
This is not true.

I was definitely not "indoctrinated" as you say. Living in a very religious, very tight-knit community I was brainwashed with extremely conservative ideals. I was forced to be religious, even though I did not want to. I was fed very narrow-minded views on sexuality, family, and just life in general.

It was only after I graduate Magna Cum Laude, after joining the Army in 2003, after traveling the world in all 7 continents, only then did my world open up, only then had I found myself. After these amazing experiences I don't consider myself a liberal for political reasons, I say that I am a liberal person, I am an open-minded, educated person, who refuses to be tied down with controlling ideals. I died graciously on the battlefield in 2007, with a note in my hand that said ... "true happiness is found in the liberal mind."

See? I can make up some bullsh*t too.

While you think that magna cum laude degree "opened up your mind," I promise you, you were indoctrinated into liberalism.

Do you even know what the words "centrist" or "independent" mean? Or are you just a perfect example of what I said in my other post in this thread?

I am pretty sure you are the perfect example of what I described in my previous post. :roll:
 
While you think that magna cum laude degree "opened up your mind," I promise you, you were indoctrinated into liberalism.

I've accomplished two things here.

1) I've convinced you I'm a liberal, even though my story I used was clearly sarcastic. I don't even know what the hell magna cum laude is.

2) I've proven that you have a very narrow-minded view on things.

I consider myself relatively independent, because I am conservative on some issues, I am liberal on others. I'm not a bandwagonner, so I don't call myself a libertarian or moderate "because its cool to be one." On the these liberal issues, I sat down with myself and said "ok, what makes perfect sense, what do I feel is true?"

Just as you think your conservative ideals are true, I do mine. So if anything, we were both brainwashed into thinking that our own ideologies are true.

Let me ask you, why do you think libs are brainwashed? And don't say some sh*t like "because they are." Give me a real f*cking answer.
 
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I've accomplished two things here.

1) I've convinced you I'm a liberal, even though my story I used was clearly sarcastic. I don't even know what the hell magna cum laude is.

2) I've proven that you have a very narrow-minded view on things.

I consider myself relatively independent, because I am conservative on some issues, I am liberal on others. I'm not a bandwagonner, so I don't call myself a libertarian or moderate "because its cool to be one." On the these liberal issues, I sat down with myself and said "ok, what makes perfect sense, what do I feel is true?"

Just as you think your conservative ideals are true, I do mine. So if anything, we were both brainwashed into thinking that our own ideologies are true.

Let me ask you, why do you think libs are brainwashed? And don't say some sh*t like "because they are." Give me a real f*cking answer.

You haven't proven anything, well, nothing besides your own idiocy if you are being really serious about not knowing what magna cum laude means...

But to answer your question, liberals are brainwashed because they all stick to their silly repetitive talking points that they've downloaded from the Daily Kos and heard on Rachel Madcow and on Keith Olberwomann. Conservatives, on the other hand, are crazy individualists. We have varying views on candidates, foreign and domestic policy, and a ton of other things. Liberals don't have nuance in their views; they simply parrot the simplistic, treasonous party line on every issue.
 
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You haven't proven anything, well, nothing besides your own idiocy if you are being really serious about not knowing what magna cum laude means...

Wow ... that's ... that's not what I'm saying. I said that to show you I was sarcastic. Smoke a j or something man ...

Come over to my place and just chill.

But to answer your question, liberals are brainwashed because they all stick to their silly repetitive talking points that they've downloaded from the Daily Kos and heard on Rachel Madcow and on Keith Olberwomann. Conservatives, on the other hand, are crazy individualists. We have varying views on candidates, foreign and domestic policy, and a ton of other things. Liberals don't have nuance in the views; they simply parrot the party line on every issue.

Like what? Wake the f*ck up dude! Both sides have had the same damn talking points since the beginning of time itself!

Every one of my views (conservative and liberal) are derived from my own mind. I can promise you man, there are things that come out of liberals' mouths that just make me wanna twist and shout. My political views change every day, I am learning every day, as is everyone.
 
Wow ... that's ... that's not what I'm saying. I said that to show you I was sarcastic. Smoke a j or something man ...

Come over to my place and just chill.



Like what? Wake the f*ck up dude! Both sides have had the same damn talking points since the beginning of time itself!

Every one of my views (conservative and liberal) are derived from my own mind. I can promise you man, there are things that come out of liberals' mouths that just make me wanna twist and shout. My political views change every day, I am learning every day, as is everyone.

I am not denying that there are some conservative puppets who know nothing at all, but they are exception to the rule. Liberals being mindless indoctrinated puppets is the rule.
 
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I am not denying that there are some conservative puppets who know nothing at all, but they are exception to the rule. Liberals being mindless indoctrinated puppets is the rule.

I'm trying real hard not to take the easy road and say "Prove it!" That doesn't solve anything. But why do people get an exception to the rule?

"Oh these guys agree with me more, let's give them a backstage-pass! ;)" Life doesn't work like that man.

In all honestly, you sound like other libs and cons who say "no the guys on my team are right, the other guys are flawed." That's like the epitome of a talking point. Fortunately, I'm in very a comfortable position, because no one agrees with me (yeah I know sad for me). I have no one that I'm feverishly trying to protect.

I'll refer to Captain also:
No, it's the liberals. No, it's the conservatives. I've got a better one: it's anyone who says either "no it's the liberals or no it's the conservatives." Those are the folks that are brainwashed.
 
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But to answer your question, liberals are brainwashed because they all stick to their silly repetitive talking points that they've downloaded from the Daily Kos and heard on Rachel Madcow and on Keith Olberwomann. Conservatives, on the other hand, are crazy individualists. We have varying views on candidates, foreign and domestic policy, and a ton of other things. Liberals don't have nuance in their views; they simply parrot the simplistic, treasonous party line on every issue.

Go [ame="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#35594811"]here[/ame] and watch from the one-minute mark to the two-minute mark, then get back to us.

:rofl
 
I am pretty sure you are the perfect example of what I described in my previous post. :roll:

Best you can do is "I know you are but what am I?" Thanks... you've proven my point... again. :laughat:
 
I am not denying that there are some conservative puppets who know nothing at all, but they are exception to the rule. Liberals being mindless indoctrinated puppets is the rule.

And you continue to demonstrate what I said in my first post. Please keep going... you are sinking yourself deeper and deeper. You post like a caricature of the conservative partisan hack.
 
But to answer your question, liberals are brainwashed because they all stick to their silly repetitive talking points that they've downloaded from the Daily Kos and heard on Rachel Madcow and on Keith Olberwomann. Conservatives, on the other hand, are crazy individualists. We have varying views on candidates, foreign and domestic policy, and a ton of other things. Liberals don't have nuance in their views; they simply parrot the simplistic, treasonous party line on every issue.

Conservatives like you have no individuality whatsoever. They aren't even real conservatives. All they are are anti-liberals... they have no position on anything, all they do is say that they are against liberals. The worst kind of brainwashing and overgeneralization. No original thought at all.
 
And you continue to demonstrate what I said in my first post. Please keep going... you are sinking yourself deeper and deeper. You post like a caricature of the conservative partisan hack.

And you post like the kind of pseudo-intellectual bully and hack, who cannot formulate a coherent point on topic that is worth reading, but thinks he has infinite power to insult people and engage in psychological analyses of people because his screen name is bolded. And that, my friend, is laughable. :lol:

Again, it is hilarious to see the cavalier attitude and outright condescension coming from someone who thinks that being in the middle makes them an intellectual and mentally superior to people on the left or right. :lol: It just proves my point. ;)

Go here and watch from the one-minute mark to the two-minute mark, then get back to us.

:rofl

Yeah, because putting together a montage of different people repeating the fundamental point that Republicans, and the American people mind you, have been stressing about this entire bill equates to "unthinkingly spewing the party line." The way MSNBC did that you'd think that that's all Republicans said for their time there.

Even CNN had to admit that the Republicans crushed the Democrats intellectually.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y70VVj6tuU&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Gergen On CNN: Dems Didn't Get "Breakthrough" They Wanted; GOP "Had Their Best Day In Years"[/ame]

Either you didn't watch the summit, or you just don't mind being intellectually dishonest.

Nice try, though.

Conservatives like you have no individuality whatsoever. They aren't even real conservatives. All they are are anti-liberals... they have no position on anything, all they do is say that they are against liberals. The worst kind of brainwashing and overgeneralization. No original thought at all.

Thank you, Dr. Phil. Do you have anything of substance to offer? Oh, sorry, I forgot you're an independent who can't formulate any original or insightful political thought, but can spew pathetic and sophomoric psycho-analyses. :roll:
 
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And you post like the kind of pseudo-intellectual bully and hack, who cannot formulate a coherent point on topic that is worth reading, but thinks he has infinite power to insult people and engage in psychological analyses of people because his screen name is bolded.

That's a pretty bold statement. Pun intended.
 
And you post like the kind of pseudo-intellectual bully and hack, who cannot formulate a coherent point on topic that is worth reading, but thinks he has infinite power to insult people and engage in psychological analyses of people because his screen name is bolded. And that, my friend, is laughable. :lol:

So being partisan and playing favorites is the solution? No.

Let's just face it, everyone on Earth is brainwashed.

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