That's the whole point. They AREN'T radical and AREN'T out of the mainstream. You dont get bonus points for showing up at a protest with a "WE AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE" sign.But if you agree with them, then they must not be all that radical or out of the mainstream, yes?
You said the original tea party had no real leaders but somehow did something meaningful (even though it really didnt) and my point is that the teabaggers are not a movement I take seriously in part because they have no leadership and very rarely is a mob ever the best means for effecting any real change.I have no clue what you meant by this. I responded to your criticism of them calling themselves a Tea Party along with your rather snooty evaluation that they must not be much if they don't have identifiable leaders or a printed platform or something to that effect.
I'm sorryYep. Because I have been heavily involved with the Tea Party movement
Which version am I supposed to listen to? We had some of these teabagger idiots in my hometown and I **** you not, walking past them, this was a selection of what I heard.and have listened to what the people are saying which you apparently have not.
"NO MORE TAXES"
"OBAMA IS A MUSLIM"
"NO GOVERNMENT BUT OUR OWN"
"NO CHINA" (I REALLY didnt get that one)
"STOP SPENDING OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE"
And various permutations thereof. That says this is a movement of people who are pissed about losing an election and now they're throwing any temper tantrum they can to get TV time. Half the time the teabaggers dont make any sense at all "No government but our own" what the hell does that even mean?
Why?And there is this which I think should be required reading in every highschool and university in America: In Search of Self-Governance - Rasmussen Reports
No, no I really dont. I realize this is part of the Conservative mindset is to want to pigeon-hole everyone but I assure you being a Socialist in no way necessitates a support of big government. I'd encourage you to read some Socialist literature so you'd get a chance to see what we actually believe but I somehow doubt you'd take me up on that.If you are a Socialist you by definition believe in big government and consent to intrusiveness that anti-Socialists would not consent.
I use the terms that they used on themselves. Just because NOW they figure out their name had another meaning BEFORE they got to it is not my problem.In my opinion, you criticize the Tea Partiers and use perjorative terms to describe them
How the hell can I know what they're all about when they have no consistent or coherent message other than "ANGRY MOB IS ANGRY!"because you are a) ignorant about what they are all about
Again, how can I know what they stand for when part of them are ranting about Muslims, part of them want no taxes at all, and the rest I cant figure out what they're there for because they dont make any sense.b) you are opposed to everything they stand for.
No I suspect "pedantic" and "clueless" would come in somewhere.If you had a clue about the people involved in those gatherings, you would not be describing them as childish.