View Poll Results: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

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  • Its never okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died.

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  • Its okay as long as everybody generally agrees that individual was a despicable person.

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  • Its okay as long as you think that person was despicable.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Don't get me wrong--Hitler should have been killed by that English guy, before he went out conquering the world. but I'm not a German either.
    Maybe my history is crap, but I don't understand either of these statements.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    My point is, people we consider evil, don't get up in the morning, have coffee, and kiss the wife and kids goodbye, and say "Dear, I'm off to do evil deeds today". --We judge their acts as evil, after the fact. but their intentions, however twisted they may be, are not perceived by them, as evil. they are wrong in their actions, but don't have evil intent in their minds. They just think they are right in their actions. --we see that as evil.
    So we have to wait for people to claim evil as their motivating force for acts of evil before we're allowed to call them evil? I'm sorry, but that's a pretty shoddy bar for assigning evil -- how many people have you know who've explained away evil beliefs/actions because they're evil. Just about none, which means that you can't use that as the defining standard. It has to be something else.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Sorry, Skateguy, but I'm not buying your act. You haven't answered a single one of my questions directly, and the mention of Hitler invoked in you a bout of equivocation that attempted to water down the historical understanding of Hitler's wrongdoing. Your comment that Hitler was "misguided," a Neo-Nazi catchphrase, is on permanent record here, and I'm not going to pretend that it wasn't made. If you'd address this, I'd be happy to retract what is certainly a seemingly very inflammatory statement on my part, but your repeated refusal to answer it makes me suspect that my suspicions may actually hold water.

    I don't pretend to understand the game you're playing, but you're definitely not playing a straight hand here.
    What would lead you think I was under some obligation to explain my self to you? I have already stated that I thought Hitler should have been killed way before he got his War Machine rolling. As for the term "Evil" I have also spelled out my thoughts on that. You come at me hard, then say you will let up on me, if I jump through barrels for you---well, it ain't happening. I post what I post, and if you get something out of it fine, but I'm not in the habit of chewin my cabbage twice. Now, have a great day, or night, or what ever it is.
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    only if they resisted health care reform

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    What would lead you think I was under some obligation to explain my self to you?
    Oooookeydokey, then. You haven't directly answered a single one of my questions, and I can see you have no desire to engage me directly on any point at all.

    Happy new year, Skateguy.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Oooookeydokey, then. You haven't directly answered a single one of my questions, and I can see you have no desire to engage me directly on any point at all.

    Happy new year, Skateguy.
    This actually seems to be a reoccurring theme of Skateguy's. It seems that he's here more to push an agenda than to actually debate about subjects.
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Don't get me wrong--Hitler should have been killed by that English guy, before he went out conquering the world. but I'm not a German either. My point is, people we consider evil, don't get up in the morning, have coffee, and kiss the wife and kids goodbye, and say "Dear, I'm off to do evil deeds today". --We judge their acts as evil, after the fact. but their intentions, however twisted they may be, are not perceived by them, as evil. they are wrong in their actions, but don't have evil intent in their minds. They just think they are right in their actions. --we see that as evil.
    Hitler had no evil intent when he wanted a WHITE race? OK. So no scumbag thinks of themself as evil. So! Does not change the fact the are EVIL
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    I generally try not to speak ill of anyone regardless of living, ill, dieing, or dead, however someone being ill or dead will not keep me from being honest.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Hitler had no evil intent when he wanted a WHITE race? OK. So no scumbag thinks of themself as evil. So! Does not change the fact the are EVIL
    No, he did not.....

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    You didn't have the option I'd pick, therefore I had to pick other. It's no more wrong to speak ill of someone in the hospital or dead than it is at any other time. Bad people die too, there's no reason to treat them like they're not bad just because they're in dire straits.
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    Re: Is it Kay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    If you discount Hitlers crimes against humanity, and the fact that he hung out with a right load of weired psychopathic nut jobs, his career is similar to that of Charlton Heston when he was chair of the NRA.

    Dont get me wrong, I know Charlton did not commit crimes against humanity........ok his wig and acting was pretty borderline, but I think that was the wigs influence

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