View Poll Results: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

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  • Its never okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died.

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  • Its okay as long as everybody generally agrees that individual was a despicable person.

    4 6.90%
  • Its okay as long as you think that person was despicable.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    I feel with death does not come respect. Did you earn my respect while living? If not? I am free to diss you fresh in your grave if I think you were a frigging asshole while living.

    I am not sure why people think death or even age earns you some strange kind of "respect" .. This whole thing about respect your elders and do not speak ill of the dead is just lame. WHY NOT speak ill of someone if they were jerks!
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Gossip rots the mind.
    Which may be what is wrong with our society right now. Have you noticed that a lot of news is nothing but gossip? People live for gossip.
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    When they die, they should also get a period of grace where everyone pretends they were the model citizen, Rotarian, husband and father, but only for a period of time, say 6 months to a year, then the gloves are off.

    WHY? Why pretend they were something they were not? Just because you are dead we are suppose to coddle you and LIE about what you were in life? How crazy is this? It is not like they can hear it or care. Sure we should not be dissing them in front of loved ones but why pretend that someone was something that they were not? Also there is a way to say someone was an asshole in life and still be respectful. It is called tact. There is no way in hell I would ever stand up and speak good things about someone who was a jerk simply because they are dead. This includes family.
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    No good comes from speaking ill of the dead. It does not undo what they did with their lives, or change the policies they espoused. It does not comfort the living. It is nothing more than reveling in another's pain when the person who earned your scorn is beyond suffering. It is wantonly cruel, and worse, it is crass.
    Disagree. I know a woman who was abused her whole married life and when her mean ass husband dropped dead? Guess what she said? Thank God The Son of a Bitch is finally Dead. You know what? Her saying that made her HAPPY. It did her a lot of good being able to say that. Of course his death did her a lot of good in general and everybody-including the kids they had that he had verbally abused their whole lives-knew it!
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    That would be a pathetic way to spend and afternoon, don't you think?
    A waste of cardboard and Sharpies
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    I have known several people, that I resent them dieing, because I can no longer talk bad about them. "May they rest in peace".
    "Don't be particular bout nothin, but the company you keep"

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I have known several people, that I resent them dieing, because I can no longer talk bad about them. "May they rest in peace".
    Along with Hitler, right? How the hell can you defend Hitler?
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Along with Hitler, right? How the hell can you defend Hitler?
    Don't get me wrong--Hitler should have been killed by that English guy, before he went out conquering the world. but I'm not a German either. My point is, people we consider evil, don't get up in the morning, have coffee, and kiss the wife and kids goodbye, and say "Dear, I'm off to do evil deeds today". --We judge their acts as evil, after the fact. but their intentions, however twisted they may be, are not perceived by them, as evil. they are wrong in their actions, but don't have evil intent in their minds. They just think they are right in their actions. --we see that as evil.
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    It's perfectly acceptable to say whatever you like, as long as your prepared to receive the consequences.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I don't use the word evil. Evil is what People call someone that goes against their view of morality. That doesn't do what the masses expect, or demand they do. There have been many Violent Men through out time. Their followers call them Heroes, their enemies call them Evil. The person committing the act, may not consider themselves evil. We start Wars. Every nation starts wars. I'm against all wars, so does that mean everyone who participates in war is Evil? To Kill because God is on your side, and has somehow given his approval for War?? Was dropping the Bomb. Evil?? Or just our way to get even? ---I use my own compass to judge things, --it's just the way I roll. I do, however like to discuss things, just to get another persons take on various topics. but I am comfortable in my beliefs, though often not popular. But hey---can't please everybody, so why try?
    Sorry, Skateguy, but I'm not buying your act. You haven't answered a single one of my questions directly, and the mention of Hitler invoked in you a bout of equivocation that attempted to water down the historical understanding of Hitler's wrongdoing. Your comment that Hitler was "misguided," a Neo-Nazi catchphrase, is on permanent record here, and I'm not going to pretend that it wasn't made. If you'd address this, I'd be happy to retract what is certainly a seemingly very inflammatory statement on my part, but your repeated refusal to answer it makes me suspect that my suspicions may actually hold water.

    I don't pretend to understand the game you're playing, but you're definitely not playing a straight hand here.

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