View Poll Results: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

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  • Its never okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died.

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  • Its okay as long as everybody generally agrees that individual was a despicable person.

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  • Its okay as long as you think that person was despicable.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I already said that it depends on the venue. It's not a black and white issue. I personally think it's okay to say negative things about dead people in certain venues, but not others.
    Then I guess I don't understand what you mean by "venues." Are you saying it's acceptable to speak ill of the dead/injured in some places but not others?

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    That would be a pathetic way to spend and afternoon, don't you think?
    What goes around comes around.Besides there might some interesting people to meet there and a few decent places to eat at.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Then maybe you would chose to do that. If anyone deserves it, it would be Mr Phelps.
    I don't know what I would do in the hypothetical father's shoes, exactly. I think I would probably be more likely to take a more passive "Whew-thank-god-that-prick-is-gone" stance, but I could see how Jamerage's sign idea would hold cathartic value as well.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    I'm going to put a foot over the ledge and see how far I drop:

    The bar of evil, the standard by which we deem it acceptable to speak ill of the dead/injured, can be applied to one whose sole life outcome/goal was to spread human suffering. By that standard, both Limbaugh and Kennedy would both make very poor candidates. Phelps would be a good one because no positive outcome could possibly arise from his actions.

    Have at it.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think if Fred Phelps got seriously injured posters wouldn't be holding their tongue and if Fred Phelps died then people would be wanting to take a bus to his funeral to protest it with signs that say "God hates faggy little asswipe preachers like Fred Phelps"
    " Yes, that ought to really get Fred's ire." But wait if Fred was dead then...

    We always go for that knee jerk reaction. A bomber carries explosives in his shoes and now around 1.5 million Americans are forced to take their shoes off at airports. That must give him a chuckle to know that because of him we have to change our lives.

    Fred Phelps dies and you want us to carry fag signs? What good is that?
    They would feed off that so much the Phelp clan would be having orgasms in the cemetary.

    There are ways to fight these people and that is simply not it. No wonder we can't win a war.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'm going to put a foot over the ledge and see how far I drop:

    The bar of evil, the standard by which we deem it acceptable to speak ill of the dead/injured, can be applied to one whose sole life outcome/goal was to spread human suffering. By that standard, both Limbaugh and Kennedy would both make very poor candidates. Phelps would be a good one because no positive outcome could possibly arise from his actions.

    Have at it.
    Sounds reasonable.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    " Yes, that ought to really get Fred's ire." But wait if Fred was dead then...

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    Fred Phelps dies and you want us to carry fag signs? What good is that?
    They would feed off that so much the Phelp clan would be having orgasms in the cemetary.

    There are ways to fight these people and that is simply not it. No wonder we can't win a war.
    Well, the act would be symbolic, and purely for ourselves. Also, even if he were simply injured and could see the sign (on the news, e.g.), it still wouldn't have any impact on him. Have you seen any interviews with him or his wife? He "knows" he's right, so all he would be seeing is someone who is "absolutely wrong" carrying around a sign insulting him.

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Uh huh, except we don't typically assign the label of "evil" to those using self defense. Are you saying that Germany didn't start the war, or that Hitler was "protecting" himself from the gypsies, Jews and homosexuals?

    Are you, in fact, a Neo Nazi, or are you just playing devil's advocate?

    And you still haven't answered, "misguided by who?"
    I don't use the word evil. Evil is what People call someone that goes against their view of morality. That doesn't do what the masses expect, or demand they do. There have been many Violent Men through out time. Their followers call them Heroes, their enemies call them Evil. The person committing the act, may not consider themselves evil. We start Wars. Every nation starts wars. I'm against all wars, so does that mean everyone who participates in war is Evil? To Kill because God is on your side, and has somehow given his approval for War?? Was dropping the Bomb. Evil?? Or just our way to get even? ---I use my own compass to judge things, --it's just the way I roll. I do, however like to discuss things, just to get another persons take on various topics. but I am comfortable in my beliefs, though often not popular. But hey---can't please everybody, so why try?
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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    [QUOTE=Blackdog;1058456839]Son of a gun I voted wrong!

    I think they are dead and don't care. Say what you want.

    Zombie Ted Kennedy will come and get you if you speak ill of the Democratic dead![/QUOTE]

    IS he going to kill more innocent women while he is resurrected?......

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    Re: Is it okay to speak ill of those who are hospitalized or just died?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    IS he going to kill more innocent women while he is resurrected?......
    Ohhhhhhh! That one has gotta hurt! Dead or not.
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