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Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

Is America's Left Tolerant and Compassionate?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 47.5%
  • No

    Votes: 31 52.5%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
***** Compare these two well mentioned assertions . First GWB is really stupid. Cheney really called the shots during those 8 years. Then a current one - the MSM is utterly deferential to Barack Obama and will if possible sit on or bury any really damaging news about his Administration.:shock:

***** Which has a higher probability of truth (?)


**** Next Two - GWB was really inept on 9/11/01 - continuing to read the Goat Book after first hearing of the WTC having been struck by an aircraft.

****** Barack Obama & Jeremiah Wright were much closer over many years than the MSM ever fully expounded on and probably discussed International matters at length without a massive difference of opinion. Which of those two items probably has more Meat to it.


***** In 1970 Playboy Magazine ran an item on Political polarization. They had Tom Hayden & Abie Hoffman on one side and Spiro Agnew on the other side to show the degree of Hate in the land.:shock:
 
***** Democrats/Liberals/Progressives do stand with Obama just about 100% /Across the Board /Unquestionably. If they didn't this Health Care Turkey would still be in Committee - however they KNOW that to him this is EVERYTHING. Therefore they know better and someone like Ben Nelson (D-Neb) cover themselves by at least "Bringing home the Bacon":roll:

Or... Democrats/Liberals/Progressives do stand with Obama on principle because they believe in the issues that he stands for.


***** Conservatives being opposed to Obama is an example of at least some standing on principle. It's in short supply within the Beltway and I more than suspect that the catalyst in this was/is the MSM dropping all pretense in 2008 and assisting this guy become POTUS when there was still more unknown about him than known. Absulotely unprecedented in the past century. Brian Williams of NBC was in essence an emcee for two huge mega gatherings - in Berlin & late in the campaign in Sarasota,Florida. He got special access and he joined in the adorement of Barry the Great.

And... Conservatives oppose Obama just about 100% /Across the Board /Unquestionably. They couldn't care less whether the health care bill is good or not, but they know it to him it is EVERYTHING. Therefore, they know better than to go against it.

See how easy that was? Demonstrating unfailing partisan hackery is as easy as changing a few words. And the cool thing is, it makes perfect sense.

I hope you've gotten something out of this exchange. :roll:
 
**** What I've gotten is that I notice by your Avatar that you are not ideologically identified. I also notice that you don't deny the point that there STILL is quite a bit really unknown about Obama. I'd like to see that Passport he used to travel in 1980/81 and who paid for these trips.
 
**** What I've gotten is that I notice by your Avatar that you are not ideologically identified. I also notice that you don't deny the point that there STILL is quite a bit really unknown about Obama. I'd like to see that Passport he used to travel in 1980/81 and who paid for these trips.

And what I've gotten is that I notice that you follow lock-step with the talking points of your "lean" no matter how silly. Good information to have.
 
It took less than 24-hours to have the Rush Limbaugh hospitalized thread shut down.
Not only moved to the basement, but shut down.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/63102-report-rush-limbaugh-taken-hawaii-hospital.html

Why?

The left projectile vomited its death wishes all over the thread (and internet), revealing how vile, callous and intolerant this group really is.

Protect the terrorists, but death to our most vocal political opponents.

Interesting Party you've got.

We saw the depths Libs would go at the Wellstone funeral... may this put an end to any thought the left is compassionate and tolerant.

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when Reagan died, several places had boards about his legacy. Most of those were quickly filled by leftwing gays screaming that Reagan was going to burn in hell for not blowing the entire national budget on AIDS research

A prominent black female leftwing nut case proclaimed that she hoped Justice Thomas's wife feed him stuff that would cause him to get a heart attack

When Charlston Heston died-a truly great man who was risking his career for civil rights long before supporting civil rights was a popular cause, anti gun barking loons made fun of his alzheimers.

When Oral Roberts, and Jerry Falwell died, numerous sites, including DU and the DK were crowing proudly

When you claim to be for "the greater good" it is easy to crap all over individuals who don't support your program
 
***** Democrats/Liberals/Progressives do stand with Obama just about 100% /Across the Board /Unquestionably. If they didn't this Health Care Turkey would still be in Committee - however they KNOW that to him this is EVERYTHING. Therefore they know better and someone like Ben Nelson (D-Neb) cover themselves by at least "Bringing home the Bacon":roll:

Actually, we don't stand with him nearly 100 %. Your basic premise is flawed right there. We just think he is better than what we have had the last 8 years, and agree with him on most stuff.
 
Please define the American Left.

I cannot possibly determine what this presumption consists of.
 
when Reagan died, several places had boards about his legacy. Most of those were quickly filled by leftwing gays screaming that Reagan was going to burn in hell for not blowing the entire national budget on AIDS research

A prominent black female leftwing nut case proclaimed that she hoped Justice Thomas's wife feed him stuff that would cause him to get a heart attack

When Charlston Heston died-a truly great man who was risking his career for civil rights long before supporting civil rights was a popular cause, anti gun barking loons made fun of his alzheimers.

When Oral Roberts, and Jerry Falwell died, numerous sites, including DU and the DK were crowing proudly

When you claim to be for "the greater good" it is easy to crap all over individuals who don't support your program

The Wellstone funeral was a stunning moment, I still recall the expression on Lott's face; the stuff like this with Rush is to be expected when they sink so low during the funeral of one of their own.

What makes me ill is this group of neerdowells behave like they are God's gift to compassion and tolerance.

Like most things liberal, it's a complete nonsense.

James,
To compare Rush with Saddam or Hitler to give cover or justify such behavior... c'mon. Rush hasn't killed millions, or tortured endlessly. He has promoted conservatism and used the framework of the nation's founding and founders as the baseboard to defend and promote conservative ideals.

Free speech is a terrible thing...

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Please define the American Left.

I cannot possibly determine what this presumption consists of.

I think it is anything west of the Mississippi river, unless you are an Aussie and look at world from an upside down perspective, then it is everything east of the Mississippi.


[semi rant, not directed to the quoted portion above:]

This thread is pathetic, a big stinking pile of generalizations to attribute the actions of a few to a wide swath of the "left" in order to vilify them and label them hypocrites for actions that the group as a whole has nothing to do with.

It works both ways, and both the left and the right have individuals which are part of the whole that do asinine things, that does not mean the entire group is accountable for the actions of a select few.

For every "liberal scumbag" denigrating Limbaugh for being ill, there is a "conservative scumbag" who has done the same for another public figure they disagree with.

You can bet your ass that if it was Micheal Moore that went into the hospital with chest pains, this entire hissy fit would be reversed 180 degrees, and we would be talking about the "intolerant vile right"

Some people can be assholes, shocking!!!

I will let you all now return to your previously scheduled fallacious vilification of the "left".
 
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So the moral of this story is that there are assholes on both side of the aisle; that neither side is more "moral" than the other; and that there are both liberal and conservative partisan hacks that will put their politics ahead of humanity.
 
***** A Few years ago on another forum several Progrssives openly rejoiced over the death of Jerry Falwell . They referred to him as a Fat Phony Bastard - and were Glad he was now in Hell.

****** Last year Ted Kennedy passed away - years after he should have had the noninibriated decency to step down from his Senate seat. Yo my knowledge no similair comments were put forth by any decent Conservative.Many however saw the MSNBX mega coverage of his demise as massive overkill like Churchill & 3 Popes all rolled into one.
 
***** A Few years ago on another forum several Progrssives openly rejoiced over the death of Jerry Falwell . They referred to him as a Fat Phony Bastard - and were Glad he was now in Hell.

Jerry Fallwell was one of those people I liked the least. He got my favorite show of all time cancelled. Be that as it may, he impacted a lot of people and I did not rejoice over his death.

****** Last year Ted Kennedy passed away - years after he should have had the noninibriated decency to step down from his Senate seat. Yo my knowledge no similair comments were put forth by any decent Conservative.Many however saw the MSNBX mega coverage of his demise as massive overkill like Churchill & 3 Popes all rolled into one.

Well, then you were doing selective reading. Here, some conservatives called him every name they could think of and expressed true happiness over his death. So, tell us what you think about that.

And btw, no DECENT liberal would put forth horrid comments about RUsh. Please try to not look at things in only black or white.
 
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***** I didn't participate in it. I wasn't here at the time.If I was here then I would have made a few decent comments - not about the Man - but a rebuke of those rejoicing.

**** Just FYI - Limbaugh is not exactly my idol. While in agreement with him on most things and knowing he's more Philanthropic than most realize . I'm not exactly comfortable with his self serving entreprenurial view of this life and this World. I also part company with those with this bizarre view of Sarah Palin.
 
***** I didn't participate in it. I wasn't here at the time.If I was here then I would have made a few decent comments - not about the Man - but a rebuke of those rejoicing.

I know you weren't here. I find it hard to believe that the kind of crap I saw... similar to what we are seeing about Rush, here, didn't happen elsewhere.

It is good to hear that you would rebuke those that took joy in another's suffering.

**** Just FYI - Limbaugh is not exactly my idol. While in agreement with him on most things and knowing he's more Philanthropic than most realize . I'm not exactly comfortable with his self serving entreprenurial view of this life and this World. I also part company with those with this bizarre view of Sarah Palin.

Good to know. I refuse to give any attention to any of the pudits... right or left. As far as Rush goes, I respect his ability to communicate as he does. Takes a lot of intelligence and confidence to do that. I was glad to hear that the hearing problem he had several year ago did not cause him to go deaf, and having worked as an addictions counselor, I understand how difficult it was for him to deal with his addiction to pain killers... and to have some in the press rake him about it. To me, his politics suck big time and I reject pretty much everything I've heard he positions himself with. But that is a separate issue.
 
***** A Few years ago on another forum several Progrssives openly rejoiced over the death of Jerry Falwell . They referred to him as a Fat Phony Bastard - and were Glad he was now in Hell.

And the "decent progressives" did not participate.

****** Last year Ted Kennedy passed away - years after he should have had the noninibriated decency to step down from his Senate seat. Yo my knowledge no similair comments were put forth by any decent Conservative.Many however saw the MSNBX mega coverage of his demise as massive overkill like Churchill & 3 Popes all rolled into one.

And some "indecent Conservatives" did.

We are all human despite at times having divided partisan views, we are all extremely similar to one another, there are assholes, faults and flaws in all segments of humanity, it does not know partisan lines it just is.

- but that also goes for all that is good in us and in humanity, the good in mankind does not split itself along partisan lines, it just is.
 
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***** Some of the indecent Conservatives may be Gun Nuts, Skin Heads,Rabid Right to Lifers, and outright Racists.

***** Others come close but will not cross any legal or perhaps ethical line.


******* On the other side there are Comfortable Liberals who cannot imagine violence or think about any personal risk for 5 seconds , but who are somewhat intrigued about those who might go this route. Even some Islamists perhaps:( Some have arrived at that Golden Plateau where they give at least some modicum of credibility to anyone at odds with their own Country just about. This is called ThirdWorlditis and it afflicts the comfortable who can easily use the term Fascist or Nazi without in some cases the foggioest idea as to a certain History.

***** We are a thoroughly divided Nation with many factors contributing to this situation including the Internet. The clear partisinship in the media with Fox at odds with the other organizations is another huge factor brought on by a techno explsion and the now obvious slant in the old 3 networks.


***** I.m glad I'm 63 now because I kind of doubt recovery is possible.
 
Where's the poll? Hmmmm...wonder how long til this thread is shut down...:doh

Ok...the polls here now.

I'm still giving this thread less than an hour.

Wrong again. Of course, you would LOVE to shut down any poll or threat that exposes many on the left to be the hateful, intolerant people that many of us know them to be.
 
The right did the same thing when Kennedy died. I had to shut down one of those threads. There is no difference between the haters on the left and the haters on the right. Only a partisan hack would believe that there is.

And some on the right (myself included) were highly critical of those who made these kinds of comments regarding the late Senator.
 
One of the reasons I left the GOP - because I didn't want some of the fringe speaking for me. After Reagan, they skidded downhill rapidly and I continued to hang on. Finally I just let go of the bus that was dragging me along and I've felt better ever since. Now I read some of the stuff I read from *some* of my former party members and I cringe.... the GOP will never recover unless something changes from within.

Honestly... I was also not a fan of Ted Kennedy OR Rush Limbaugh but I don't wish harm on anyone... I hope I never get to the point where I hope that someone dies or falls seriously ill because of their politics.

We are on the same page here. I used to be an activist in the GOP when it was truly the party of the Big Tent rather than the Revival Tent that it has become. I will gladly go back if they return to their more inclusive ways of the 80s and 90s. However, I don't feel like I have a home in EITHER major party at this point. Too much I disagree with both on and too many people in each of them I simply have little stomach for.
 
OMG! You are really gonna "judge" the left based on some dummies spouting off at the mouth on this site? Get Real! How dare you say "vile" left. Let me tell ya that the left are the ones that will save your sorry Conservative ass when/if an overthrow happens.
 
***** I.m glad I'm 63
so am I, I'm not the oldest fart here:)

Ps for all those who care, I will be 59yrs old on the 25th of Jan and I expect due 'omage from you lot.

PPs as a brit I love the vitriol and cant spewed out by both sides, it is meaningless yet so fragranly amusing:)
 
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