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Thread: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    I think this certainly does point to a problem though, and the problem is in both camps. It only takes one or two liberals or conservatives acting the ass to get the whole of liberals or conservatives seen as being asses. Me personally, I welcome it when conservatives act the ass, since it's easy to point out and argue against. However, when liberals do it, it's winceworthy for me. Every ridiculous accusation of racism where none is present, every comment about Bush being a criminal, every over the top "teabagger" reference makes me grind my teeth. We really do need to police our own more often, and call out those on the same side of the political fence more often when they make asshole type comments.

    The other thing this speaks to, and something I find very sad is the "well they did it, now it's our turn". Just because some liberals called Bush a nazi does not justify in any way calling Obama a nazi. Just because some conservatives acted the ass when Kennedy dies does not justify acting the as when a conservative has health problems. We need to somehow bring this attitude to an end. It does not further any cause, it does not help make your points, and it really is kinda shameful. Political discourse should not be on the same level as school ground fights.
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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think this certainly does point to a problem though, and the problem is in both camps. It only takes one or two liberals or conservatives acting the ass to get the whole of liberals or conservatives seen as being asses. Me personally, I welcome it when conservatives act the ass, since it's easy to point out and argue against. However, when liberals do it, it's winceworthy for me. Every ridiculous accusation of racism where none is present, every comment about Bush being a criminal, every over the top "teabagger" reference makes me grind my teeth. We really do need to police our own more often, and call out those on the same side of the political fence more often when they make asshole type comments.

    The other thing this speaks to, and something I find very sad is the "well they did it, now it's our turn". Just because some liberals called Bush a nazi does not justify in any way calling Obama a nazi. Just because some conservatives acted the ass when Kennedy dies does not justify acting the as when a conservative has health problems. We need to somehow bring this attitude to an end. It does not further any cause, it does not help make your points, and it really is kinda shameful. Political discourse should not be on the same level as school ground fights.
    Redress, this is why in the past I have called on members of each political affiliation to confront members of their own who act like foolish partisan hacks. If you see them do it, call them on it. It helps to distance yourself from your own affiliation's idiocy.

    And it's not only party affiliation. I have a strong pro-GM position, but when I see another pro-GMer acting like an ass, I confront them hard. It's important to police our own. If the other side does it, it just looks like partisan attacks, even if it isn't.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    I voted no, but it has nothing to do with Fatty Limbaugh.

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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I agree. It is completely disgusting, IMO. It is also disgusting to attack the children of political candidates. I think Palin is an idiot, but what members of the left did to her children was scummy.
    But don't forget what Rove did to McCain, alluding that his adopted child was really his from a black prostitute.
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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That was you LMR. There are certainly lefties that haven't attacked Rush, too. There were plenty on the right who showed just as much classless behavior around Kennedy as those on the left are showing Rush. Is it everyone? Certainly not. Only the hacks.
    That was pretty much myself and Tall. And I'm quite consistently an asshole, so no surprise there...

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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    This poll makes little sense.

    Zimmer defines, as many here do, the "left" as anyone he disagrees with.

    To determine the answer to the poll, we'd need a list of everyone who has ever disagreed with Zimmer on any subject.
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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    **** Some Conservatives are not infatuated with Sarah Palin or the element that adores her. Some are not wild about aby Conservative Talk Show host. Also some openly & strongly criticize Ron Paul and the crew that latched onto him in 2008.


    ***** Other than Zell Miller & Joe Lieberman and that one Missisippi Congressman - find me any current Democrat not on board with Barry.

    *** Bob Byrd being rolled into the Senate chamber to Voye Yea one week ago for his "Friend" Ted Kennedy was a geriatric low class act only sustainable because few these days remember anything or were born after the MSM dropped all pretense.

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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc Route View Post
    **** Some Conservatives are not infatuated with Sarah Palin or the element that adores her. Some are not wild about aby Conservative Talk Show host. Also some openly & strongly criticize Ron Paul and the crew that latched onto him in 2008.


    ***** Other than Zell Miller & Joe Lieberman and that one Missisippi Congressman - find me any current Democrat not on board with Barry.

    *** Bob Byrd being rolled into the Senate chamber to Voye Yea one week ago for his "Friend" Ted Kennedy was a geriatric low class act only sustainable because few these days remember anything or were born after the MSM dropped all pretense.
    Go through your list and start naming some Conservatives that ARE on board with Obama. Then get back to us.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    I regard Rush Limbaugh not much different than another Tokyo Rose. An on-air radio blowhard bent on ripping the US apart.

    But that being said, I don't wish him any bad health. I know it's a game he's playing, and playing well I might add, exploiting the simple minded and validating their ignorance. He's making a fortune at it. Nothing wrong with getting rich within the boundries of the law. That's the American way. There have been snake-oil salesmen since the invent of the railroad.

    Free speech can be a double edged sword. Even still, long live free speech. I suppose that goes for Tokyo Rose too.
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    Re: Well, well, well... The Intolerant, Vile Left slithers into the New Year

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Go through your list and start naming some Conservatives that ARE on board with Obama. Then get back to us.
    When I think the president does something right or even may have some merit I will say so. For instance, and has been rare with this adm. for the purposes of saving money, after the defense dept. cleared the presidential helicopter for future service it was accepted over a newer model, I don't know whether the reasons were practical or political, but either way it was a good call. There have been a few things where I say Obama almost got one right.....at least he's on the right track, but.....I call 'em as I see 'em.
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