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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

    to me, for there to be a crime, there first must be "intent"--If a person is actually nuts enough, to not know what they are doing, then it could be considered an "accident, if the illness was sever enough.----I had to totally re do this post, I forgot what forum I was in.
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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

    If someone has a mental illness that impedes their ability to distinguish between fantasy and reality, or impedes their decision making abilities, then that should be taken into account if they commit a crime. However, if the illness is a known one, and they are voluntarily refusing treatment/meds/etc. then they should not get special consideration for their illness.
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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

    I think our method is fine. If the person didn't understand that what they were doing was wrong they get treatment rather than punishment.

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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

    Nope!.................
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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

    Same rationale as the "hate crime," I don't care WHY you killed X, I just want you taken FAR away from those you would harm.

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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

    depends on the type and severity of mental illness, with the bloke with bi polar, he would have probably known what he was doing, if it was severe he wouldn't have travelled, however if he had severe autism or down syndrome or scizophrenia, then thats a different matter

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    Re: Should a criminal's mental illness have an impact on how he or she is punished?

    That all depends on the mental disorder or disability. While a schizophrenic might not be to blame for the results of his disorder, a person with a phobia is as able to tell right from wrong as the rest of us.

    People should not be punished for being sick. If someone commits a crime because of a mental disorder he should receive all possible care and treatment - if necessary by force.

    Not all people can be treated. In some cases society failed to take action in time and an individual developed a dissocial personality disorder leading to violent behaviour. Or the perpetrators are mentally retarded. In those cases there are rarely much that can be done to treat the disorder and the only right thing to do will be to detain them in secure psychiatric hospitals until they are no longer able to be a threat to society.

    I also think psychiatric disorders ought to have a say in sentencing the same way physical illness have. While a disorder might not have influenced the crime in any way it might be cause for a reduced sentence. The prison system is designed with fit young men in mind and putting a psychiatric patient into that system will result in him being disproportionally punished compared with his peers.
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