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    Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Well we barely escaped another terrorist attack on a airline flight on Christmas day due the stupidity of the terrorist who tried to light off the device in his seat rather do it in the privacy of the bathroom.. Every time we ask this question in a poll the left is up in arms and the question is usually voted down, so again I ask the question....
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Nope, no profiling---what if we hurt a Hijackers feelings??? Wanna buy a flower???
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    It will prove futile. Even if you could, logistically, prevent unwanted from boarding an air plane, their goal is not to travel, but to destroy.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    A person who is willing to tie dynamite to his chest, and kiss his Kids goodbye, has a motive for his actions. Ever wonder what makes him tick??? that may help understand the enemy. We must get to understand our enemy better than he does himself. Which is the first thing to do, before destroying him.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well we barely escaped another terrorist attack on a airline flight on Christmas day due the stupidity of the terrorist who tried to light off the device in his seat rather do it in the privacy of the bathroom.. Every time we ask this question in a poll the left is up in arms and the question is usually voted down, so again I ask the question....
    Well, first off what kind of profiling are you talking about? Racial/ethnic profiling, religious profiling, forensic profiling, offender profiling, etc. There's a lot of different kinds. I'm assuming you're discussing racial profiling, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Secondly, the biggest question is, does it actually work? I've read a couple different studies, but the general consensus seems to be that yes, it is effective to a degree, at least for certain crimes. One of those studies is linked below.

    Racial Profiling Works!!!: Operations & Tactics at Officer.com

    Finally, you have to consider the fact that it creates a very adversarial relationship between members of the groups being profiled against and the police/TSA/whoever. It also subjects a lot of innocent people to major disruptions in their travel plans for no other reason than they're members of a certain race, which is (perhaps arguably) against the 4th and 14th amendments.

    Taking all that together, personally, I don't believe the benefits of profiling are worth the downsides it carries with it. If it were more effective, I might feel differently, but profiling isn't a magic bullet against terrorism, it's just one tool among many.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well we barely escaped another terrorist attack on a airline flight on Christmas day due the stupidity of the terrorist who tried to light off the device in his seat rather do it in the privacy of the bathroom.. Every time we ask this question in a poll the left is up in arms and the question is usually voted down, so again I ask the question....
    I'm in favor of profiling. It makes sense. It's stupid to waste time and resources searching a little old lady, or a woman traveling with her baby. Most terrorists are men, to start with. Suicidal terrorists are usually Middle Eastern men who aren't traveling with their families. Anti-government whites don't really hijack planes anymore, they would most likely do something like McVeigh did. They aren't generally suicidal.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    A person who is willing to tie dynamite to his chest, and kiss his Kids goodbye, has a motive for his actions. Ever wonder what makes him tick??? that may help understand the enemy. We must get to understand our enemy better than he does himself. Which is the first thing to do, before destroying him.
    It's not our responsibility to solve the problems of every suicidal person who comes along.

    These men ARE suicidal in my opinion. Their feelings of despair are exploited by leaders who prey upon them in order to forward their cause and their own status within that movement.

    It's not natural for any human being to not seek to preserve his or her own life unless something has gone awry. Most likely the subjects are depressed and might respond to pharmaceutical intervention. Some of them may may be more than depressed with more severe mental problems.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    i hate to tell you this, but not all terrorists have dark skin, perhaps you should look up david hicks for example

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Why stop at airline flights? What makes airline unique. If you are going to engage in racial profiling then you should do it in all aspects of life.
    Better yet, we could do what we did with the japanese in WWII and put all arab/Americans in internment camps. Wasn't that something that you were advocating just about a month ago, Navy?
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    I don't know why security is so lax on other forms of transport. Basically, I don't feel like there's much of a terrorist threat in the U.S.. I think it got totally overblown after 911 and exploited by Bush to further his own agenda.

    Think of it. There are water systems and the electrical grid that are essentially wide open to whomever wants to disrupt them. There are dams here in the West that are totally vulnerable.

    I just don't think there are that many terrorists. Not to say that we shouldn't be alert.

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