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Is it time to profile on airline flights?

Is it time to profile on airline flights?

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Skateguy said:
The way to stop any further attacks against America, is to give them something to worry about back home---and I don't mean building them shoppin centers.
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Where is back home?
 
Navy Pride said:
Well we barely escaped another terrorist attack on a airline flight on Christmas day due the stupidity of the terrorist who tried to light off the device in his seat rather do it in the privacy of the bathroom.. Every time we ask this question in a poll the left is up in arms and the question is usually voted down, so again I ask the question....
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We need to do profiling like El Al does it. The Israelis get it right.

Profilers -- that's what they're called -- make a point of interviewing travelers, sometimes at length. They probe, as one profiling supervisor told CBS, for ``anything out of the ordinary, anything that does not fit." Their questions can seem odd or intrusive, especially if your only previous experience with an airport interrogation was being asked whether you packed your bags yourself.
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What Israeli security could teach us - The Boston Globe
 
disneydude said:
Sorry...but just because you served doesn't give you Carte Blanche to ridicule the service of anyone who disagrees with you.
It also doesn't give you Carte Blanche to spit on the servicemen who actually fought in combat to preserve the rights that you are so willing to give away.
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DD with all due respect you are hopeless.......I am not going to continue to play these games with you...If you want to discuss the subject of the thread that is fine, but no more smoke screens..........

I will just say I was one of those guys who fought to give you the right to preach your left wing gaarbage..........Did you?:2wave:
 
Dirty Harry said:
Tell me what's different. If you can. The only difference I see is that Obama is sending more troops to Afghanistan. Something that would not have been neccessary if Bush hadn't dropped the ball and fouled things up.
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Your a Bush hater..........The only thing that man could do to satify you is die...........
 
Navy Pride said:
DD with all due respect you are hopeless.......I am not going to continue to play these games with you...If you want to discuss the subject of the thread that is fine, but no more smoke screens..........

I will just say I was one of those guys who fought to give you the right to preach your left wing gaarbage..........Did you?:2wave:
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Sorry Navy....but no one is playing games. Perhaps you don't like being called out when you spout off your usual nonsense. Too bad. You are going to be confronted with it.

The fact is....you continually belittle the military service of those you disagree with and although you feign respect, you give no respect to the rights that people fought and died for.
You can't hide behind your non-combat service and pretend that it gives you the right to give away the liberty that people who served in combat fought for.
 
disneydude said:
Sorry...but just because you served doesn't give you Carte Blanche to ridicule the service of anyone who disagrees with you.
It also doesn't give you Carte Blanche to spit on the servicemen who actually fought in combat to preserve the rights that you are so willing to give away.
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One more thing I drew hostile fire pay for 39 months during the Vietnam war and the only way you can get that is be in combat.........
 
Navy Pride said:
Idon't even know who you are except some newbie in DP.....
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So basically that means I am right. Thanks for admitting defeat.

Congratulations for having 25K worth of troll posts.
 
Navy Pride said:
One more thing I drew hostile fire pay for 39 months during the Vietnam war and the only way you can get that is be in combat.........
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Not true at all.

All REMFs draw the same combat pay as the grunts. Right now as we speak, military personnel are drawing HFP in Kuwait, where there is absolutely nothing going on at all. Not to mention several other places around the world where there are no shots fired in anger.

It is very easy to secure all the amenities of war without "paying the piper".
 
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Navy Pride said:
One more thing I drew hostile fire pay for 39 months during the Vietnam war and the only way you can get that is be in combat.........
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Navy....you've already said in the past that you didn't serve in actual combat. You need to remember what you write.
 
disneydude said:
Navy....you've already said in the past that you didn't serve in actual combat. You need to remember what you write.
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How could he have been in combat when his job during that time was to keep record of his ships inventory? I don't remember exactly what he said his job was but I do remember UtahBill explaining just what Navy's job was a while back.

There it is :

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/23659-do-you-believe-hillary-lesbian-16.html#post642594

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Navy Pride said:
What I was is not relevant but for you I will tell you I was a SK..Do you know what that is? The people that run the ship.
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Not sure how much combat the shopkeeper of a ship could have seen in 'Nam.
 
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kansaswhig said:
Not true at all.

All REMFs draw the same combat pay as the grunts. Right now as we speak, military personnel are drawing HFP in Kuwait, where there is absolutely nothing going on at all. Not to mention several other places around the world where there are no shots fired in anger.

It is very easy to secure all the amenities of war without "paying the piper".
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I am talking about the Vietnam war...........Before your time probably........
 
disneydude said:
Navy....you've already said in the past that you didn't serve in actual combat. You need to remember what you write.
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You are so full of crap...........I was in combat for 33 months.

13 month tour in country
2 10 months tour aboard USS SACRAMENTO (AOE-1)
 
Hatuey said:
How could he have been in combat when his job during that time was to keep record of his ships inventory? I don't remember exactly what he said his job was but I do remember UtahBill explaining just what Navy's job was a while back.

There it is :

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/23659-do-you-believe-hillary-lesbian-16.html#post642594

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Not sure how much combat the shopkeeper of a ship could have seen in 'Nam.
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The SK rate in the Navy is also the identifier for explosive ordinance disposal (EOD), SEALS, salvage divers and SWCC (Special Warfare Combat Craft) crewman.

You boys might wanna slow down, lest you start denegrating someone's service.

Took me a few minutes, but I thought I remembered someone telling me that divers were designated as storekeepers. Turns out that it isn't just divers who hold that rate.

I could say so many things right now, but I reckon I'll be cool.
 
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apdst said:
You boys might wanna slow down, lest you start denegrating someone's service.
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Actually the inconsistencies in Navy's story have been pointed out by some of his fellow veterans. Specificially people who served around the same time he did. You might want to read what is being said - Navy has a long history of exaggerating his service and being caught by other people.
 
Hatuey said:
Actually the inconsistencies in Navy's story have been pointed out by some of his fellow veterans. Specificially people who served around the same time he did. You might want to read what is being said - Navy has a long history of exaggerating his service and being caught by other people.
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I didn't serve during that era, so I can't say. And, I'm not going to go digging around trying to smear the service of a fellow vet.

I've seen other vets make comments that made me question their actual service in the past and I didn't say anything and I'm not going to start now.

I was only pointing out that SK didn't necessarily mean that a sailor is just a store keeper.
 
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Hatuey said:
Actually the inconsistencies in Navy's story have been pointed out by some of his fellow veterans. Specificially people who served around the same time he did. You might want to read what is being said - Navy has a long history of exaggerating his service and being caught by other people.
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I really don't have to answer to a draft dodger like you but I was paid combat pay for 33 months during the Viet Nam war........

13 months in country
2 10 months tours aboard the USS SACRAMENTO (AOE-1)...

Whether you believe it or not is not important to me...You probably were just a gleam in your fathers eye at the time anyhow.........

Everyone that was in the combat zone got hostile fire pay regardless of their rank or rate.........
 
apdst said:
I didn't serve during that era, so I can't say. And, I'm not going to go digging around trying to smear the service of a fellow vet.

I've seen other vets make comments that made me question their actual service in the past and I didn't say anything and I'm not going to start now.

I was only pointing out that SK didn't necessarily mean that a sailor is just a store keeper.
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Thanks but that is what Hatuey does when he loses and argument or debate...nothing new here..........
 
after a count of actual names the score is now 26 nay instead of 32.....Looks like at least 6 people stuffed the ballot....Just like in every election..........
 
Navy Pride said:
I really don't have to answer to a draft dodger like you but I was paid combat pay for 33 months during the Viet Nam war........
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Draft dodger? I wasn't even alive in the 60s grandpa. And it has already been pointed out to you that 'combat pay' means nothing in regards to whether or not you were in actual combat.

Thanks but that is what Hatuey does when he loses and argument or debate...nothing new here..........
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This from the guy who has yet to address a single post on the topic ;)
 
Navy Pride said:
after a count of actual names the score is now 26 nay instead of 32.....Looks like at least 6 people stuffed the ballot....Just like in every election..........
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What count are you looking at? The poll numbers are 15 for and 24 against. That is excluding all anonymous voting (which you as the poll creator should have disallowed).
 
Navy Pride said:
after a count of actual names the score is now 26 nay instead of 32.....Looks like at least 6 people stuffed the ballot....Just like in every election..........
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Yeah, and the Yes answers have 15, not 18, if we go by your logic.
 
ScottD said:
Yeah, and the Yes answers have 15, not 18, if we go by your logic.
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Only liberals stuff ballots so we must ignore those anonymous No's but those anonymous Yes's are 100% valid.

Geez liberals need to be spoon fed everything. :roll:

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Navy Pride said:
I am talking about the Vietnam war...........Before your time probably........
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Vietnam was the same as the contemporary services.

REMFs get the same Hostile Fire Pay.

But nice attempt at using your age to deflect the argument, which of course, you failed miserably.
 
apdst said:
The SK rate in the Navy is also the identifier for explosive ordinance disposal (EOD), SEALS, salvage divers and SWCC (Special Warfare Combat Craft) crewman.
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OK, then, if he was a SEAL, as you claim, then why doesn't he say so? Let's just put this to rest.

You boys might wanna slow down, lest you start denegrating someone's service.
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Yes, we would hate it if we were [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftboating"]Swiftboat[/ame] N.P.

But I bet that you were in favor of the denegration of another Navy veteran's service...it happened in 2004, if you recall.

I could say so many things right now, but I reckon I'll be cool.
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Uh, say what?
 
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