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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Let's just add this:

    I was working for a North West Airlines feeder right after 9/11. The company listed me on a NWA flight from MSP to MEM to get home from an assignment. Keep in mind, I was wearing a full uniform and had a proper SIDA badge (which means I had a 10 year background check and drug screening). As part of the "random" passenger checks, TSA pulled me aside to check my bag before I boarded. With me, a 70+ year old nun in full garb.

    Now, who do you think should be checked? The 20 something pilot and elderly nun or the 5 young middle eastern men just in front of me?

    I would contend that it is a waste of time and an increased security threat to abide by PC rules to prevent someone from being offended than it is to target people based on past aggressors, even if it involves race.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    If you use a profile, then terrorists will find people who don't fit the profile.

    That's the strength of random. There's no telling who will be searched.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I would contend that it is a waste of time and an increased security threat to abide by PC rules to prevent someone from being offended than it is to target people based on past aggressors, even if it involves race.
    Agreed. It is sad that our present administration doesn't have the moral courage to name the enemy.

    How many failed or successful terror attacks against the US in the last 15 years or so have involved attackers who were *NOT* Muslim?
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    If you use a profile, then terrorists will find people who don't fit the profile.

    That's the strength of random. There's no telling who will be searched.
    Somewhat off-topic, but I wonder if there are any statistics on how successful these random searches actually are? The numbers are probably skewed by what gets reported, but I feel like the vast majority of times that there's an incident where someone is doing something they shouldn't be doing, it's caught when the person is on the plane, not when they're at the metal detector.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    If you use a profile, then terrorists will find people who don't fit the profile.

    That's the strength of random. There's no telling who will be searched.

    Hell, search everyone. That's the safest way to do it. Apparently, these folks have forgotten Jihad Jane.

    'Jihad Jane': How does Al Qaeda recruit US-born women? - CSMonitor.com

    Don't forget...we have plenty of homegrown crazies.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Somewhat off-topic, but I wonder if there are any statistics on how successful these random searches actually are? The numbers are probably skewed by what gets reported, but I feel like the vast majority of times that there's an incident where someone is doing something they shouldn't be doing, it's caught when the person is on the plane, not when they're at the metal detector.
    I would like to see some statistics too. [not enough to look for them mind you]
    How big of a risk are we looking to diminish?
    How effective are our measures?

    What's our cost-benefit ratio here?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    No because if you profile, what happens when we have something like a bunch of whackos that think they need to take back America, they are all white, wearing suits, blue eyes, big pearly grin, and get on the plane and first thing they do is take out the business pen, stab the flight attendant in the throat, and holds up the entire plane with an iPad they hid a bomb in? But no go ahead and profile first.
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