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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well we barely escaped another terrorist attack on a airline flight on Christmas day due the stupidity of the terrorist who tried to light off the device in his seat rather do it in the privacy of the bathroom.. Every time we ask this question in a poll the left is up in arms and the question is usually voted down, so again I ask the question....
    We already have profiling methods that could have prevented this individual from getting on the plane, we simply failed to use them properly.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    Well that is great for you. Now address what I said. But I have the suspicion that you'll just repeat yourself over and over again without actually saying anything.



    Okay stop right there. Because you obviously didn't read anything that has been said before. Navy himself has stated his duties on a ship and tried to inflate them. He was called on them by people who have spent more then a day in uniform and he didn't reply. That you're still trying to argue **** that you weren't around to even see just shows that you're just talking so that we can all see that you have something to say. Please stop? I will rip you apart for being the newb who stepped up to somebody who's been here for more than a couple of months.



    And here we go again with apdst talking like something is obvious and he has any prior knowledge of the facts. No. Obviously, something is not obvious when a person refuses to clarify their own statements as Navy himself has whenever his telling of his story is asked to be clarified. Learn what words like inconsistency and obvious mean before you go using them. Remember sparky? That's what we're talking about?



    Three paragraphs and you've yet to prove where anything I've said on Navy is wrong or even begin to address what is actually being said. What you've stated several times is 'I see no inconsistency' and 'you don't know what you're talking about'. That has been proven to be false. My statements do not stem from Navy's actual service but the particularities of them and how a lot of them have been called out as being gross exaggerations of facts.

    Your second paragraph is a fallacy. Not serving in the military does not mean you have knowledge of how a branch operates. That is like saying that because you do not make paint yourself, you wouldn't know how to use it. It simply does not follow.

    Your 3rd paragraph is a complete f'n lie as you have already introduced yourself into threads talking about socialism and then were found not to have a single f'n clue on what socialism actually was. Proving that you do in fact regularly talk about **** you're clueless about. Why don't you follow your own advice?



    Are you still typing just to type? You must be. Cause I keep seeing your repeat yourself over and over again without actually making a point. What did I say about Navy being stationed in Cam Ranh Bay? Anywhere? Please show me? I had to put the only sentence in that entire diatribe of a paragraph in bolded letters because it shows your inability to understand that Navy's story in the military is not something which can be seen off a single post. Navy has 20K posts, to understand what is being talked about you'd have to actually - oh I don't know - have been here to understand. But since you haven't. What use is your opinion?

    Now personally, if I cared about what you thought, or knew? I'd drill a hole in the left side of my brain just so you and I could be on the same intellectual level. But since I have no intention of handicapping myself to the point where I am no longer able to comprehend what I am discussing, no thank you. Carrying on.



    Are you out of your alcoholic mind? Seriously - WHERE did I say this? Listen - if you're not even going to read what is actually being said or comprehend the difference between intentional hyperbole and what you think is being said - you should REALLY stop typing. What I did state was that Navy has on many occasions talked like he was running a ship.

    He's been called on it by people who just what people like him did in the military and Navy has ALWAYS to this day run away from the conversation. Why? Personally I don't know. But I've grown to the suspicion that he is so full of **** that if he started talking about what he actually did, he'd no longer be able to paint himself as somebody was really in the heat of it all as he usually does.



    No. If you actually knew how to follow a thread properly and had just an ounce of reading comprehension you would have understood that what has been called into question is some of Navy's claim not only regarding what he actually did in the service but some of the details in it.

    That is not a fallacy. Please! Please! Please! LOOK UP the definition of words before you try to use them. That is called an observation regarding the events that have unfolded. Navy stated you could only get A if you did B. This was shown to be false. Then he stated people didn't know about it cause it was at point 1. That was also shown to be false. Considering you've yet to even read a single post on the matter, and I know you haven't because you've completely misunderstood the crux of the matter, why is it that you are still talking? Please explain it to us? I'd love to find out. Because the injection of your person into a topic which you seem to be completely clueless about, as usual, is kind of annoying.
    So, no retort. Just insults and double speak?

    Whatta shocker!!!

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    EL AL have been doing it for years, if you go for the non kosher option you are shot!

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Letís just shut down the airlines and only allow domestic travel via walking.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    Letís just shut down the airlines and only allow domestic travel via walking.
    dont be daft, americans dont know how to walk

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

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    Is it time to profile on airline flights?Enough derailing. Everyone, this thread isn't about Navy's service, stop with the deep analysis. Here is not its place. Navy, stop throwing around your service to insult and diminish others. Get back on topic

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    We need to do profiling like El Al does it. The Israelis get it right.

    What Israeli security could teach us - The Boston Globe
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    Israeli airport security, much of it invisible to the untrained eye, begins before passengers even enter the terminal. Officials constantly monitor behavior, alert to clues that may hint at danger: bulky clothing, say, or a nervous manner. Profilers -- that's what they're called -- make a point of interviewing travelers, sometimes at length. They probe, as one profiling supervisor told CBS, for ``anything out of the ordinary, anything that does not fit." Their questions can seem odd or intrusive, especially if your only previous experience with an airport interrogation was being asked whether you packed your bags yourself.
    We HAVE these things now. They're Behavior Detection Officers. The TSA employees them. Their job? To watch the lines and other places at airports seeing if anything looks out of hte ordinary or if anything does not fit and questions and probes people that they think fit a certain profile of issues.

    For the love of pete people can be stupid sometimes.

    PROFILING is not bad. In general, Profiling is a useful tool. The problem is and why there is this kind of push back is because Religious/Ethnic blanket, broad, profiling is ineffective and dumb. Spending your time interrogating or checking a guy because he happens to be named Akhmed while and acting like that's so much more important than the white woman whose acting nervous, has a one way ticket, nad paid for cash, is idiotic. Interrogating and checking Every Single "muslim", "arab", "Middle easterner", "terroristy looking" person is ineffective and will simply take up far, far to much resources and time.

    Not to mention attempting to compare our security to Israel is a bit of a misnomer. How airports of the top two classifications do they need to do security for? There's three just in the DC metro area.

    "Profiling" as a general thing isn't bad, and is used. Broadscale Racial Profiling when you're focusing on a particular race leads to less concern about other warning signs on those outside of that profile, which is dangerous, and is also incredibly inefficient.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    I still think the pork chop muslim detector technique is the solution. We can't just go by name, ethnicity, or country of orgin. It must be religious based profiling. Like they say with very few exceptions "Not all muslims are terrorist, but nearly all terrorists are muslim. And what is it that muslims fear most other than sexuality? Thats right, pork and muhammad cartoons.

    We need a pork chop pedophile prophet muhammad cartoon muslim detector. Once we have the ability to identify who is muslim then we can run them through seperate security checks for a strip search/cavity search.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sigh.



    We HAVE these things now. They're Behavior Detection Officers. The TSA employees them. Their job? To watch the lines and other places at airports seeing if anything looks out of hte ordinary or if anything does not fit and questions and probes people that they think fit a certain profile of issues.

    For the love of pete people can be stupid sometimes.

    PROFILING is not bad. In general, Profiling is a useful tool. The problem is and why there is this kind of push back is because Religious/Ethnic blanket, broad, profiling is ineffective and dumb. Spending your time interrogating or checking a guy because he happens to be named Akhmed while and acting like that's so much more important than the white woman whose acting nervous, has a one way ticket, nad paid for cash, is idiotic. Interrogating and checking Every Single "muslim", "arab", "Middle easterner", "terroristy looking" person is ineffective and will simply take up far, far to much resources and time.

    Not to mention attempting to compare our security to Israel is a bit of a misnomer. How airports of the top two classifications do they need to do security for? There's three just in the DC metro area.

    "Profiling" as a general thing isn't bad, and is used. Broadscale Racial Profiling when you're focusing on a particular race leads to less concern about other warning signs on those outside of that profile, which is dangerous, and is also incredibly inefficient.
    This is exactly right. On its own, racial profiling is wasteful, not all that effective, and dangerous to people's civil rights. As part of a broader tactic of criminal/terrorist profiling, race is one useful thing to look at among many.
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