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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    This is a good example of what is so sad about things like this. Flying is still one of the safer methods of travel, the chance of being a victim of terrorism are still remote, and yet we get all panicked every time anything happens(well, externally, terrorism aimed at abortion clinics never really bothered many). The truth is, no matter what we do, there will still be a risk, and terrorists will adjust their tactics based on what we do.

    We should, obviously, learn from the mistakes that allow any attack to happen. In this case, I am not sure profiling would have helped, and of course, profiling by physical appearance is a lost cause, simply because as soon as we start doing it, terrorists will simply use people who don't fit the profile. Profiling based on actions is much more effective, and I am pretty sure we do at least some of that already.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    It's not our responsibility to solve the problems of every suicidal person who comes along.

    These men ARE suicidal in my opinion. Their feelings of despair are exploited by leaders who prey upon them in order to forward their cause and their own status within that movement.

    It's not natural for any human being to not seek to preserve his or her own life unless something has gone awry. Most likely the subjects are depressed and might respond to pharmaceutical intervention. Some of them may may be more than depressed with more severe mental problems.
    I don't think any one is suggesting that it's our responsibility to solve the problems of suicidal people, but learning motivations is a good step in learning how to identify those who are likely to cause problems.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think any one is suggesting that it's our responsibility to solve the problems of suicidal people, but learning motivations is a good step in learning how to identify those who are likely to cause problems.
    I'm sure that the government has psychological profilers and uses these techniques in investigating potential suspects. It would be interesting to find out more about this aspect of the 'war on terror'.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Profile WHO? Blacks, browns, muslims, people with scary names, people with turbans, swarthy foreigners, the Czechs, etc.?
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Profile WHO? Blacks, browns, muslims, people with scary names, people with turbans, swarthy foreigners, the Czechs, etc.?
    Probably a good place to start would be with men. They are most likely to hijack airplanes.

    As far as me, I'm more nervous about the pilot having not had enough sleep or the mechanic having done a slipshod job.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Probably a good place to start would be with men. They are most likely to hijack airplanes.

    As far as me, I'm more nervous about the pilot having not had enough sleep or the mechanic having done a slipshod job.
    I wouldn't object to a policy that applied all of our current security procedures while also increasing the likelihood that men would be subjected to an additional search.
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Looks like the terrorists won again. Some of you guys are just terrified.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Well, first off what kind of profiling are you talking about? Racial/ethnic profiling, religious profiling, forensic profiling, offender profiling, etc. There's a lot of different kinds. I'm assuming you're discussing racial profiling, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Secondly, the biggest question is, does it actually work? I've read a couple different studies, but the general consensus seems to be that yes, it is effective to a degree, at least for certain crimes. One of those studies is linked below.

    Racial Profiling Works!!!: Operations & Tactics at Officer.com

    Finally, you have to consider the fact that it creates a very adversarial relationship between members of the groups being profiled against and the police/TSA/whoever. It also subjects a lot of innocent people to major disruptions in their travel plans for no other reason than they're members of a certain race, which is (perhaps arguably) against the 4th and 14th amendments.

    Taking all that together, personally, I don't believe the benefits of profiling are worth the downsides it carries with it. If it were more effective, I might feel differently, but profiling isn't a magic bullet against terrorism, it's just one tool among many.
    That is and easy one......Who is committing all the terrorist attacks in the world? Its radical Islam and I would profile any Islamic person that boarded a plane.......I am sorry it has to come to this but we are fighting for our very existence here......The left won't even say the words Islamic Terrorists.....They want to call it a police problem.............I say bull ****...........
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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is and easy one......Who is committing all the terrorist attacks in the world? Its radical Islam and I would profile any Islamic person that boarded a plane.......I am sorry it has to come to this but we are fighting for our very existence here......The left won't even say the words Islamic Terrorists.....They want to call it a police problem.............I say bull ****...........
    A blanket policy like that would escalate tensions between Muslims and the West. Most Muslims aren't terrorists, you have to admit.

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    Re: Is it time to profile on airline flights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is and easy one......Who is committing all the terrorist attacks in the world? Its radical Islam and I would profile any Islamic person that boarded a plane.......I am sorry it has to come to this but we are fighting for our very existence here......The left won't even say the words Islamic Terrorists.....They want to call it a police problem.............I say bull ****...........
    Do be so scared. Don't let them win.

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