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    Re: Did the system work?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Exactly right, quality over quantity. If the Airports were run by Casino owners it would be a whole different ballgame.
    Last Chrismas, I had one of them make fun of my Christmas shirt. He was all full of his power, and was calling out to the rest of his cronies, to look at my shirt, then laughing loudly. tha Jerk. If I weren't there to pick up my Son, I would have gone to jail.--I wanted that fat boy bad. I'd break him of suckin eggs.
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    Re: Did the system work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Last Chrismas, I had one of them make fun of my Christmas shirt. He was all full of his power, and was calling out to the rest of his cronies, to look at my shirt, then laughing loudly. tha Jerk. If I weren't there to pick up my Son, I would have gone to jail.--I wanted that fat boy bad. I'd break him of suckin eggs.
    I had a fatboy TSA treat me like an idiot because I didn't push my carry on through the scanner right away. My fatboy was at the Tampa airport.

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    Re: Did the system work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    When I went to the airport to pick my Son up for the Holidays, I witnessed airport security doing it's thing. The took a small child, maybe 3 or 4 in her stroller away from her Mother, and gave the stroller a thorough going over. the poor child was crying loudly for her Mother,who had to remain about 5 yards away. People just stood and watched as they put this Family through this.---so I will say this, "If we have become so sheepish, and so fearful of the sky fallin that we will put our children through this, all in the name of saftey, we have truly lost the American spirit of fearlessness". No wonder the World has lost respect for us. we act like sissys, for all the world to see. butch up America, and face the future boldly like you have a pair.
    So if a bomb did get through you'd say at least we weren't sissies? Personally a personal search is a small price to pay vs. taking a free fall at 30,000 feet with a few limbs missing and half burned.

    We live in different times that require we "grow a couple" and quit whining about searches before we board.

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    Re: Did the system work?

    I'm not 100% sure what we're going for here. I mean, there will never be a 100% system wherein we are never at risk. There will always be something which gets through the cracks. Some people take this as license to excuse government usurpation of powers and improper action; but even then it would be hard to make something 100% in this case even with total Big Brother government. I'd rather take the risk and be free than to run crying and whining to the government about being saved. But regardless, this guy got on and the passengers and air marshals stopped it. Good for them, highlights the natural resistance now posed to terrorists on a plane. But we shouldn't pretend like there will never be attempts anymore just because we made highly annoying security and such. Maybe in this case there should have been more done since there seemed to be a bit of information about this guy which authorities should have acted on. But in general, we should note that there will be attempted terrorist attacks from time to time. Of those attempts, every so often one will be successful. That's it. We're not 100% safe, never will be if freedom is what we strive for. Still, terrorism has less probability of affecting me than say drunk drivers. So since I'm not freaking out about drunk drivers, I'm not going to freak out about terrorists.
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    Re: Did the system work?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    So if a bomb did get through you'd say at least we weren't sissies? Personally a personal search is a small price to pay vs. taking a free fall at 30,000 feet with a few limbs missing and half burned.

    We live in different times that require we "grow a couple" and quit whining about searches before we board.
    to live in fear of death, is to already be dead in Spirit. We all go someday. It is how we face our Mortality, that defines who we are. Fear should not enter into the equation. Nor should we change our behavior because of it. ---we should have carried on with business as usual after 911. Nobody wants to die, clutching at damp sheets, while trembling with fear.
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    Re: Did the system work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    to live in fear of death, is to already be dead in Spirit. We all go someday. It is how we face our Mortality, that defines who we are. Fear should not enter into the equation. Nor should we change our behavior because of it. ---we should have carried on with business as usual after 911. Nobody wants to die, clutching at damp sheets, while trembling with fear.
    Who's afraid? I'm not. I say those who are whining about searches are the ones that are afraid. If you're scared of showing your penis or breasts in a scanner that's the true meaning of silly fear if you ask me. Last I knew we all have similar body parts being homo sapiens. When I hear people afraid to show what's under their clothes to a person that most likely has no interest whatsoever or is more intent on looking for objects i just shake my head in disbelief.

    All I'm saying is a few extra minutes before being boarded is much less an inconvenience then your plane going in to decompression in the least or coming apart at the extreme.

    And I would bet anything some of the same people that don't want their right violated would be the first ones to scream government incompetence when a plane blows up.

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    Re: Did the system work?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Who's afraid? I'm not. I say those who are whining about searches are the ones that are afraid. If you're scared of showing your penis or breasts in a scanner that's the true meaning of silly fear if you ask me. Last I knew we all have similar body parts being homo sapiens. When I hear people afraid to show what's under their clothes to a person that most likely has no interest whatsoever or is more intent on looking for objects i just shake my head in disbelief.

    All I'm saying is a few extra minutes before being boarded is much less an inconvenience then your plane going in to decompression in the least or coming apart at the extreme.

    And I would bet anything some of the same people that don't want their right violated would be the first ones to scream government incompetence when a plane blows up.
    Just don't go Nakid in yer Kitchen, some old prude will have ya arrested.----As far as X-Rays of any kind--"Unlawful search and seizure" come to mind. No big deal in this time of much hand wringing.
    Last edited by Skateguy; 12-28-09 at 06:55 PM.
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    Re: Did the system work?

    I can't remember.. someone remind me.. did the plane crash? How many people died?

    They might as well let people take this PETN stuff on planes. The shoe bomber tried the same thing, and no one was hurt there either. It doesn't work.

    The system worked fine in this case. If anything, they are already too restrictive.
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    Re: Did the system work?

    I want the old days back, when you bought yer ticket, and boarded the plane. Much like we do on a bus today. No worries about anything. No ID check, no anal probing. We knew it may be our last ride, ---we were going flying after all. But back then fear was not as common as today. Seems so much is done out of fear of one thing or another.Maybe fear makes it easier for people to be controlled. ---I have never been a very brave person. but even I find it embarrassing.----we use to run with scissors
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    Re: Did the system work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Just don't go Nakid in yer Kitchen, some old prude will have ya arrested.----As far as X-Rays of any kind--"Unlawful search and seizure" come to mind. No big deal in this time of much hand wringing.
    I'd strip naked if I had too. No big deal to me.

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