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Thread: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

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    Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    What is the most important role of government; to raise the wealth of the people or to raise the well-being of the people?

    In some cases these two goals are the same - for instance the people of poor developing countries will have greater well-being by having enough wealth to buy adequate housing or food.

    However I don't think wealth always lead to well-being. Today's industrialised societies already have enough wealth to secure that the basic needs of all citizens are met. An increase in wealth don't necessarily mean that your well-being increases if the price you have to pay is working longer hours or engaging in fierce competition.

    I am not convinced that people in the industrialised world was too poor to be happy 20 years ago.

    So what do you think is more important to do for the government; raising wealth or raising well-being.
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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    What is the most important role of government; to raise the wealth of the people or to raise the well-being of the people?
    Neither. The most important role of government is to protect individual liberty.

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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Neither. The most important role of government is to protect individual liberty.
    So individual liberty should be the main aim for government, even when it makes people poor or miserable?
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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    So individual liberty should be the main aim for government, even when it makes people poor or miserable?
    Government does not exist to make you happy or wealthy, those are things that you are charged with doing.
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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    It's your own responsibility to ensure your own well being, such as eating right, engaging in healthy social contact, and pursuing happiness in your own way. I support government regulations which ensure that major, obvious threats which could kill you don't succeed, such as big companies leaking fatal chemicals near townships, or foreign nations invading. It's not the government's job to ensure that you live comfortably.

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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    So individual liberty should be the main aim for government, even when it makes people poor or miserable?
    The government only makes people poor and miserable when it gets in the way. People are personally responsible for their own well-being and wealth generation. The government may keep people from taking advantage of each other, but trying to care for people only makes them lazy and unproductive.
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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    So individual liberty should be the main aim for government, even when it makes people poor or miserable?
    That is such a poor dichotomy.

    The government should focus on so few things that it cannot "make" anyone, anything, ever.

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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    I like the idea of moving from a wealth-based society to a happiness-based society. The King of Bhutan introduced a concept called "Gross National Happiness." I think it's an interesting idea and maybe we could try to implement some form of it as an experiment. However, I'm not sure how successful government can actually be in making people happy, beyond the standard poverty-alleviation programs that are also tied to wealth.
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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    Well-being, without a doubt.




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    Re: Wealth or well-being - what is most important?

    The government cannot achieve what an individual can do. Therefor, the government should not stand in the way of individuals so long as they do not commit crime, then there is no need for so much regulation or nanny-state. But it feels like the majority of the people the government helps out the most are the most parasitic. I have had to deal with section 8 and it was the worse year ever. The tenent was on top of us trying to extort money from us once a week, and he'd call the government and the government(local, state) were on top of us like white on rice and we never had a problem with any tenent before that section 8. After that we will never give to section 8. The government is way too abusive and protective for the wrong people.

    The city wanted us to call an architecture firm so that the buidling could be redesigned because it "wasn't mean to have a staircase in the back so that one of the units was connected to the area where the people park their cars." Really bad experiences and the people at the Chicago Housing Authority could care less when we went with them to tell them about the family. We showed them fake documents that he had created to have something fixed that HE broke. And still nothing. They just like ok ok we are sorry. But sorry doesn't help bring back the 27,000 dollars of damage that he created and the nuisances they created to the other tenents. They bothered the other tenents in the building, they would shut off the water to other units or steal from them when they were out working. Did the government do anything? Nope.

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