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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    Volume is not speech---they can still use the same content---Here Volume is what determines if the cops come and shut you down--not content. they have a meter, not a dictionary
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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    So there would be no First Amendment issue in requiring that a performance of "Bolero" be kept entirely to a quiet volume?

    What about sudden loud explosions in the middle of a movie?
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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    We have laws about loud volume now--under "disturbing the peace, and public nuisance".---I have gotten tickets.
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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    But blanket ban on loud TV ads isn't in that sphere. That is one of the "thousand things" which is different between the example of restrictions on billboard size and this.

    If the sound from the TV doesn't leave your living room, there is no public issue. Yet this ban would still be in effect.

    But I will ask the same questions again:

    So there would be no First Amendment issue in requiring that a performance of "Bolero" be kept entirely to a quiet volume?

    What about restricting sudden loud explosions in the middle of a movie?
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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    It would be so simple---put a meter on the program, and then one on the commercial---adjust the volume on the commercial to match that of the program---we have accelerator pedals on our cars, but we also have a brake.
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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    It would be so simple---put a meter on the program, and then one on the commercial---adjust the volume on the commercial to match that of the program---we have accelerator pedals on our cars, but we also have a brake.
    The technical ease of it is entirely beside the point. There are a lot of things that would be very easy to do, but would still be unconstitutional.

    You haven't answered the questions, by the way.
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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The technical ease of it is entirely beside the point. There are a lot of things that would be very easy to do, but would still be unconstitutional.

    You haven't answered the questions, by the way.
    Sorry, didn't see one---I'll go back and look.--about the laud Movie noise---that also has been addressed here in H-town, after people complained they were to loud. which is why I still don't see the need for gubment intervention here. We have plenty of laws now to address this problem. Just get them enforced.
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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Sorry, didn't see one---I'll go back and look.--about the laud Movie noise---that also has been addressed here in H-town, after people complained they were to loud. which is why I still don't see the need for gubment intervention here. We have plenty of laws now to address this problem. Just get them enforced.
    You misunderstood the question. Your example, too, is about public nuisance. I'm talking about a blanket ban on sudden loud noises in movies, no matter where or what they're played on, no matter whether they can be heard outside the walls of the room being viewed in. That's what an "anti-loud commercial law" would be.

    Meaning, no movie could contain sudden loud noises, at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    None of the above. The correct answer would be "length."
    That must be why my IQ is 146 and yours is most likely less than that.

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    Re: Anti-loud commercial law passes the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Volume is intensity, which is part of content. For a sign, the corresponding element would be brightness.

    Space is space, the size in which you have to fit your content. For a commercial on TV or the radio, that's length. Print ads are sold by space; on-air ads are sold by length of time.
    Not equivalent because that would change the picture. Increasing the size of the exact same sign does nothing to change content but it makes it more visible, and blocks more of the rest of the landscape. Increasing the volume of a commercial does nothing to change the content, but blocks out more of the surrounding sound.

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