View Poll Results: What Is Your Choice?

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  • Option 1: Protect the City

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  • Option 2: Win the War

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Thread: Which would you Choose?

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    Re: Which would you Choose?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I'm going to give you a scenario. I would like you to answer in the poll ahove after having read the scenario.

    You are the leader of your country. Your country is at war with another country. One day ago, your analysts cracked the enemy cipher, and you have learned of an impending attack on your capital city. You have also learned of a weakness in the enemy defensive line 5 days after the capital city will be attacked.

    You have 2 choices as to how to respond.

    1. You either evacuate or reinforce your capital. Either way, the enemy will realize you cracked their code, and they will change their code. They will also realize their weakness, and they will block the weakness. This choice will protect your capital city, but it will force the war to drag on. 10 Million people die in the course of the war.

    2. You evacuate only the leaders of your country, and allow the enemy to destroy your capital city. Your armies wait for the weakness, and spring forward, and win the war. Your capital city, however, is destroyed. Regardless, you have won the war. 1 Million of your citizens die, along with 1 million citizens of the country you are at war with.

    Stipulate that whatever I have stated will happen. No choices but 1 or 2.

    What will you do?
    The real question is whether the leader knows the outcome of either situation. In this case, yes, we do know because you told us, but otherwise it will be a much tougher decision.

    I would choose "win the war" simply because we already know the outcome of that decision, and that decision is much better than the other. The greatest good is the lesser of the two evils.

    Another problem is that choosing to "win the war" will make the leader look worse if his options were ever discovered. Emotionally, choosing to win the war would be much worse because your own citizens, your own countrymen die. Strategically, choosing to protect the city would prove to be much more traumatic for, not you as the leader, but the country as a whole or the 10 million that die.

    Analysis over, sorry for putting you through that.


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    Re: Which would you Choose?

    Win the war is the obvious choice for any sane leader.


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    Re: Which would you Choose?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    The 2nd option saves nine million. It would be idiotic to not go with that
    I thought of it in terms of civilians vs. combatants. I know a person is a person, but if I am the leader I have to make two additional assumptions: First, I am not the aggressor in the stated war. Second, I am not drafting people who are not willing to fight. So I would trade 10 million willing combatants to save 1 million innocent civilians. I know that isn't specifically stated in the opening, but it seems the likely consequence of this scenario. But maybe I'm an idiot.
    Last edited by Tsunami; 12-25-09 at 12:28 AM.
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    Re: Which would you Choose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I thought of it in terms of civilians vs. combatants. I know a person is a person, but if I am the leader I have to make two additional assumptions: First, I am not the aggressor in the stated war. Second, I am not drafting people who are not willing to fight. So I would trade 10 million willing combatants to save 1 million innocent civilians. I know that isn't specifically stated in the opening, but it seems the likely consequence of this scenario. But maybe I'm an idiot.
    I thought of it in these terms as well. 10 million who had a chance to go down fighting might be better than 1 million innocents. Chances are though, that some of the 10 million would be civilians as well, so as hard as it might be, I think I'd choose to sacrifice the capital to win the war.
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    Re: Which would you Choose?

    Save the city. Then nuke the entire region where the war is. (after pulling out troops of course). War ended with minimal loss on our side. Good enough for me. Not to mention that in the long run it would make other countries realize to not F*** with us, thereby saving many more millions.
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    Re: Which would you Choose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I thought of it in terms of civilians vs. combatants. I know a person is a person, but if I am the leader I have to make two additional assumptions: First, I am not the aggressor in the stated war. Second, I am not drafting people who are not willing to fight. So I would trade 10 million willing combatants to save 1 million innocent civilians. I know that isn't specifically stated in the opening, but it seems the likely consequence of this scenario. But maybe I'm an idiot.
    That seems to devalue the lives of the soldiers just because they were brave enough to accept the risk. Without sacrificing the city, there will be an extra 9 million dead men and women with grieving families. A soldier has no more desire to die than any civilian.

    Not everyone gets a choice in their sacrifice.

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    Re: Which would you Choose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Seeing the number of casualties in a non-nuclear involved war, it seems like Chuck Norris is already there.
    Not to hi jack this thread, but, My favorite all time hero, was "Roy Rogers". I admired the way he shot the gun out of the bad guys hand, but never killed anyone.---tha Man had Class.
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