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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    And what have you done?
    Nothin very important really, but I found out the process.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Nothin very important really, but I found out the process.
    ...Which is?
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    ...Which is?
    Don't like to blow my own horn, but I implemented gettin a Skate Law revised, that was causing lots of folks to get thrown in the Jail house. No big deal. but even it took over five years, and many trips to city counsel, and to Jail, and two trips to the State Capital over a two year period, to present Our case in front of the State Congress. ---we won, and now can Skate Free on the very streets we pay for. thus relieving traffic congestion, and saving fuel in the process. ---I could have just voted though, and still people would be thrown in Jail.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    It is silly to assume that technology exists thanks to NASA alone. It assumes that others outside NASA would never have made an effort to invent anything. The "long" list attributed to NASA has a lot of fiction in it.

    Why do I use an example that works? To show how naiive many of us are. Fuel Cells work, but are horribly expensive. The cost is justified when using such technology in space, but on earth? Flying cars? IT would take many more computers and satellites to track and control the air traffic. BUT, it would make for a bit of convenience for a few people. Do we have billions to waste nowadays? Technology has progressed far beyond the average persons ability to use it.
    Then there is the pollution aspect. An aerocar gets terrible gas mileage...
    Lots of NASA technology is only economically useful to NASA, and that is because they get to use taxpayer money....
    I have never once in this thread discounted that others couldn't have invented anything. That would be stupid in the extreme considering history. But the fact is that they DID invent many many things that we are currently using today. Either by themselves or by working in conjunction with private companies. To discount the very many useful things that they have made over the years is what is naive

    And in case you hadn't noticed making things convenient for us is one main aspect of being human.

    While fuel cells may be expensive today history has shown that they will get more efficient and cheaper. Take a look at computers. Use to be that one computer would take up a whole wall. Now you can basically hold one in the palm of your hand. And everyone has one. You can thank NASA for that also.

    As for your last sentence. Did you even read the articles that I have provided? Is a kidney dialysis machine only useful to NASA? How about scratch resistance lenses? Water filters? Robotics to help people with spinal/brain injuries? Artificial heart pump? Smoke detectors?

    And here's one that Skateguy might even acknowledge...

    When you buy a new set of tires, the old ones have to go somewhere, right? Most of them end up in huge, flammable tire dumps, which may hold millions of old tires, each one containing about a quart of oil in the rubber. If a dump catches fire, however, it can burn with a thick, toxic smoke for weeks on end.

    But today, old tires are being put to good use. NASA's experience in fuel-related cryogenics helped develop processes to freeze the tires to below -200 degrees Fahrenheit so that they crumble, separating the rubber from other materials and producing what's called "crumb."

    This waste is recycled into several new products, including an ingredient used to pave highways, which means your new radial tires may someday be rolling over your old ones."
    And all of these are just scratching the surface of the things that NASA as done. And we are currently using in the private sector.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Don't like to blow my own horn, but I implemented gettin a Skate Law revised, that was causing lots of folks to get thrown in the Jail house. No big deal. but even it took over five years, and many trips to city counsel, and to Jail, and two trips to the State Capital over a two year period, to present Our case in front of the State Congress. ---we won, and now can Skate Free on the very streets we pay for. thus relieving traffic congestion, and saving fuel in the process. ---I could have just voted though, and still people would be thrown in Jail.
    I've never denigrated direct action, and have done quite a bit of it myself, but it become more limited at the federal level. And direct action like what you did works because politicians are afraid it could transform into voting patterns.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Is it upsetting anyone up there?

    Green wasn't in vogue back then. I imagine NASA will be more environmentally correct next time around.

    Did you know the military's cluster-bomb junk is still littering Iraq and Afghanistan? So are thousands of shards from depleted Uranium munitions. Makes the moon junk quite insignificant in comparison. Defense Dept has no plans to clean it up either despite an operating budget that is larger than the fiscal budget of most countries. Guess somebody else will clean that up?

    Like I said up yonder, strange how your ire is so selective.
    The OP is about NASA, feel free to start your own thread about all the other wasteful spending, I would gladly support your efforts at reducing the budget for "art" and other things that the govt wastes money on.....

    NASA, at least, encourages scientific progress, even if they do get more credit than they deserve...
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I have never once in this thread discounted that others couldn't have invented anything. That would be stupid in the extreme considering history. But the fact is that they DID invent many many things that we are currently using today. Either by themselves or by working in conjunction with private companies. To discount the very many useful things that they have made over the years is what is naive

    And in case you hadn't noticed making things convenient for us is one main aspect of being human.

    While fuel cells may be expensive today history has shown that they will get more efficient and cheaper. Take a look at computers. Use to be that one computer would take up a whole wall. Now you can basically hold one in the palm of your hand. And everyone has one. You can thank NASA for that also.

    As for your last sentence. Did you even read the articles that I have provided? Is a kidney dialysis machine only useful to NASA? How about scratch resistance lenses? Water filters? Robotics to help people with spinal/brain injuries? Artificial heart pump? Smoke detectors?

    And here's one that Skateguy might even acknowledge...



    And all of these are just scratching the surface of the things that NASA as done. And we are currently using in the private sector.
    To give NASA as much credit as it gets is naiive. Might as well give credit to the industrial/military complex for their spillover while inventing better ways to kill people....
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The OP is about NASA, feel free to start your own thread about all the other wasteful spending,
    Scroll up. I didn't interject "junk" into this thread. The OP author himself did that. It's his thread and if he wants to use junk as an example, then I'll respond to it.

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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Scroll up. I didn't interject "junk" into this thread. The OP author himself did that. It's his thread and if he wants to use junk as an example, then I'll respond to it.
    Sorry, what did I do?? Please explain if you would be so kind.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    NASA in it's inception was a good Idea, and I fully supported them. but times have changed. we have found out what we needed to know about space.---It costs a lot to operate there, and other than some future mining operations, does not offer enough to justify the expense of operating there. ---with new technologies it may one day, but not today. When NASA came to be, we had a stronger more stable economy. Today we have to keep a closer eye on spending, and direct our limited funds into projects that will give a more immediate return for the dollar. Just wise budgeting in my opinion.
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