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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    We have known for decades that there are no habitable planets within many, many light years of earth,
    NASA has other missions besides detecting habitable planets. And we have NOT known that for decades. In fact, we still don't know that. NASA just discovered the first terrestrial extrasolar planet this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill
    and that man cannot live in space long enough to get to even the nearest uninhabitable planet. So, why do we still pursue the impossible with so much money?
    A) You are confusing "impossible" with "beyond current technical capabilities."
    B) Really it isn't even beyond current technical capabilities to send someone to Mars if we wanted to. There's just no reason to do so.
    C) NASA has other missions besides sending men to nearby uninhabitable planets.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill
    should we bankrupt the nation for useless knowledge?
    You only consider it "useless knowledge" because you are laboring under a misconception of what NASA does. NASA's most important missions are knowledge-gathering missions with probes and computers, not human exploration missions.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Have you not read ANYTHING that I have posted? NASA does not produce less. For every dollar spent on it, it brings in 7-8 dollars.
    who says? NASA PR people?
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    I'll say it one more time--those that think is worth the money, should be the ones to pay for it. Do I ask anyone to pay for my pet projects?? No, that would be presumptuous of me.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That is already one of NASA's main projects.

    Wind Energy Research Reaps Rewards Wind Energy.

    Solar Energy for Space Exploration Solar energy - The technology found for this can be used here on Earth..not just space.

    ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND WATER CONSERVATION
    I love it when people suggest that SUPPLEMENTAL forms of energy are considered alternates....it just isn't so. Wind and solar energy demand a huge land footprint per KWHr.....and will probably never be a substantial percentage of our electric energy mix. ANd when wind/solar are talked up as part of a plan to use less OIL, it behooves us to remember that oil is used so little in the production of electricity that we could say it isn't used at all. Back in the 70's we used bunker oil quite a bit, but no more. Until we have millions, many millions, of electric cars, no alternate or supplental form of electricity generation will play a part in the reduction of our oil usage.
    At the moment Nuclear is the only answer to our electricity needs. Nearly every engineer or scientist who understand physics and chemistry knows this already.
    NASA serves a purpose here, putting up satellites that study the earth's geography with the purpose of finding more oil.....
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    I always thought NASA was in the "wind" business.---but then we had a windmill when I was a Kid. Excuse me for not being impressed.
    Last edited by Skateguy; 12-25-09 at 03:49 PM.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I'll say it one more time--those that think is worth the money, should be the ones to pay for it. Do I ask anyone to pay for my pet projects?? No, that would be presumptuous of me.
    Agree...
    MY pet project would be to build all new buildings, homes included, to new standards that are aimed at reducing the heating and cooling needs to less than half of currently accepted amounts....
    That would probablly save enough energy to preclude the building of most supposedly needed new power plants....
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Agree...
    MY pet project would be to build all new buildings, homes included, to new standards that are aimed at reducing the heating and cooling needs to less than half of currently accepted amounts....
    That would probablly save enough energy to preclude the building of most supposedly needed new power plants....
    I would vote for you to get some money.--those are useful things. I have a trunk full of star dust all ready from my last trip home.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I love it when people suggest that SUPPLEMENTAL forms of energy are considered alternates....it just isn't so. Wind and solar energy demand a huge land footprint per KWHr.....and will probably never be a substantial percentage of our electric energy mix. ANd when wind/solar are talked up as part of a plan to use less OIL, it behooves us to remember that oil is used so little in the production of electricity that we could say it isn't used at all. Back in the 70's we used bunker oil quite a bit, but no more. Until we have millions, many millions, of electric cars, no alternate or supplental form of electricity generation will play a part in the reduction of our oil usage.
    At the moment Nuclear is the only answer to our electricity needs. Nearly every engineer or scientist who understand physics and chemistry knows this already.
    NASA serves a purpose here, putting up satellites that study the earth's geography with the purpose of finding more oil.....
    Things are moving fast in the solar, energy storage, and algae oil fronts. Companies to watch: Eestor, Saphire Energy, Nano Solar, Solasta, and a real dark horse Solar Roadways. I love "green"oil as a transitional fuel to electric because it uses the current infrastructure.

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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    Things are moving fast in the solar, energy storage, and algae oil fronts. Companies to watch: Eestor, Saphire Energy, Nano Solar, Solasta, and a real dark horse Solar Roadways. I love "green"oil as a transitional fuel to electric because it uses the current infrastructure.
    All competitive company's that strive to make a profit for their Projects, thus they have incentive.---NASA has no incentive. they have gubment Jobs for life.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Everything has just gotten bloated, and out of control. ---We need a leaner meaner system, that has it's priorities straight. take car of the Guys on the ground, if they just have to be there, and give them the best Equipment. Better rifles, better Armour. It's out there, and we all know it.
    What the **** are you even talking about? NASA's budget has actually decreased. Whereas in the 60s it wasn't unnatural for NASA to go way past 4% in terms of our national budget - today it would be lucky if it got past 0.7%. Seriously. Just because you keep saying NASA is too expensive, does NOT make it so.

    Your constant trolling on this matter is getting annoying. Either explain why NASA should be cut ahead of any other project or quit your trolling. You've done nothing but repeat the same vitriol for 15 pages. You haven't provided a SINGLE valid reason as to why NASA should be done away with. Your point that NASA is not productive has been shown to be false. Your point that NASA and the government has no incentive to continue the space has been proven to be false. The creation of new technology is in the best interest of not just the U.S. government but its people. It may sound corny but modern democratic governments do not have an interest in a population which does not have access to education. When they can provide it? They do. NASA has been quintessential in providing volumes of knowledge that kids use today in our schools. Not only that but the information it freely provides has created revenue not only for the government but for the private sector.

    You simply have no dog in this fight. You're just trolling now. We The People have decided to fund NASA by democratically electing representatives who will vote for its funding. If you don't like it? Move to Morocco.
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