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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    NASA has outlived its usefulness. I'm not debating whether it was always useless, it had its time, but now it needs to be discarded.
    NASA, has done a great job---twenty years ago. but we can no longer afford them. Private concerns, have taken the ball, and are running with it---I'm old, but some people act older. get with it Neighbors. NASA is a Dinosaur.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    NASA has outlived its usefulness. I'm not debating whether it was always useless, it had its time, but now it needs to be discarded.
    How has it outlived it's usefulness?
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Tempting to say yes..
    NASA's agenda and goals are changed, scientific discovery is good.
    Fear and ignorance are bad. ..as is racism..

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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Do tax payers have to support every idea that is not profitable???
    Essentially, yes. Research itself is not profitable. It's not supposed to be. NASA's profitable discoveries were essentially given away for the greater good.

    Scientific research is one of the very few things I believe the government should be involved in because the free market will not put in the effort to develop truly revolutionary technologies on it's own because it requires an extremely long-term outlook and a will to lose money.

    But losing money is not a waste of money if it yields fruit (and NASA research definitely yields fruit). The false dilemma being presented is that if something is not profitable, it is a waste of money. This is false.

    The value of technological advancement from NASA research far outweighs the pittance that we personally put into it's research out of our tax dollars each year.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Do tax payers have to support every idea that is not profitable???
    THIS has already proven to be false. NASA is profitable in terms of the technology it provides.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    According to what I have read, at the time of Columbus(Cristobal Colón) was leaving Spain (looking for a shortcut) Spain was in a very unstable economic condition.

    Not to mention famine and malnutrition being wide spread throughout Europe.Seems that worked out pretty well…except to our native population that is.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    I'd like to add that I believe NASA should be focused primarily on research nowadays. Working on new propulsion systems, aerodynamics, lightweight materials etc.

    They need to focus on pushing the envelope because that is exactly what the private sector won't do. Their best achievements have come when they've pushed the envelope. They shouldn't really worry if a project fails. If they are doing their jobs correctly, most of them will.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How has it outlived it's usefulness?
    I view NASA like any corporation. Recent corporate management indicates that large, massive monstrosities are too unwieldy to navigate the 21st Century. NASA incorporates everything from customer relations to shooting rockets into outer space, and everything in between. That's unprofitable; it is trying to do so many things 'well,' it is not doing anything.

    It was a great idea when there was no space industry for NASA to use. Now, when America has the Virgin Group shooting spaceships all on their own; when America has countless R&D projects researching everything about space (and beyond); when America has countless space PR organizations (like you fellows). There is no reason to have some atrophying bureaucracy cum research unit cum regulatory agency.

    Break it up, make it more specialized, or make the pieces more specialized. I suggest that one makes it an EPA of space, but in any event: keeping it the way it is will be bad medicine for the future.

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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    I view NASA like any corporation.
    And you've just demonstrated that you do not know what a corporation is or for that matter what the goal of NASA itself is. It is not a money making enterprise nor does it seek to create a profit from its venture. The first and most important reason for the existence of NASA is research and exploration. It is because of the fact that private enterprises do not primarily have these as their goals that NASA exists.

    NASA carries out experiments which other companies would see no profit in. Virgin shooting ships into space isn't doing it for oceanography research or to see how plants react to different space temperatures and conditions. They are doing it for a profit. NASA is doing it purely for the scientific aspect.
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    Re: Has NASA Outlived it's Usefulness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    I view NASA like any corporation. Recent corporate management indicates that large, massive monstrosities are too unwieldy to navigate the 21st Century. NASA incorporates everything from customer relations to shooting rockets into outer space, and everything in between. That's unprofitable; it is trying to do so many things 'well,' it is not doing anything.

    It was a great idea when there was no space industry for NASA to use. Now, when America has the Virgin Group shooting spaceships all on their own; when America has countless R&D projects researching everything about space (and beyond); when America has countless space PR organizations (like you fellows). There is no reason to have some atrophying bureaucracy cum research unit cum regulatory agency.

    Break it up, make it more specialized, or make the pieces more specialized. I suggest that one makes it an EPA of space, but in any event: keeping it the way it is will be bad medicine for the future.
    NASA isn't a corporation, and it's not supposed to be profitable in a monetary sense.

    Although I agree that they need to gain a tighter focus on research and also get out of the way of teh private sector, but this has been happening lately.
    Last edited by Tucker Case; 12-24-09 at 03:27 PM.
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