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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Another view on the direction we are heading:

    "I will never forget the awful reality of Communism or believe that it can ever be anything other than the hell it was. The facts of the last century should be enough to put an end to that vicious ideology forever, but now I find that many in our own government support something similar. Barack Obama has lost no time at pointing the country toward socialism during his first year in office. Given the chance, he will soon transform our dear country into a socialist state in which liberty will be restricted and private property much reduced. Unless he is stopped in the elections of 2010 and 2012, Obama, with the support of a compliant Congress, will extend control and regulation to every part of our lives, from prenatal care to the seizure of half of our estates -- and often more than half -- after death. With the assistance of a subservient media, he will create a propaganda machine designed to control the outcome of future elections.

    I have tried to describe my experience of communism, but soon it may not be necessary to journey back in time and outside our borders to know what a Communist Christmas is like. If the electorate does not rid Washington of the leftist politicians now controlling our affairs, we will be celebrating a Communist Christmas here in the United States."

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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    If it does pass it better be before elections. They know that it won't afterwards. Which is why they are rushing it and basically ignoring the Republicans instead of trying to make it a non-partisan bill.

    I knew that once the Democrats came into power that they would do everything that they could to pass everything that they could possibly pass before next election season. I've not been wrong yet. They've been itching to get several bad ideas passed for quite a while now.
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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    Another view on the direction we are heading:

    "I will never forget the awful reality of Communism or believe that it can ever be anything other than the hell it was. The facts of the last century should be enough to put an end to that vicious ideology forever, but now I find that many in our own government support something similar. Barack Obama has lost no time at pointing the country toward socialism during his first year in office. Given the chance, he will soon transform our dear country into a socialist state in which liberty will be restricted and private property much reduced. Unless he is stopped in the elections of 2010 and 2012, Obama, with the support of a compliant Congress, will extend control and regulation to every part of our lives, from prenatal care to the seizure of half of our estates -- and often more than half -- after death. With the assistance of a subservient media, he will create a propaganda machine designed to control the outcome of future elections.

    I have tried to describe my experience of communism, but soon it may not be necessary to journey back in time and outside our borders to know what a Communist Christmas is like. If the electorate does not rid Washington of the leftist politicians now controlling our affairs, we will be celebrating a Communist Christmas here in the United States."

    American Thinker: Christmas under Communism


    Makes me sad to think anyone buys this silliness.

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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    What won't happen? The higher taxes or the jailing of young people for refusing to buy health insurance?
    Young people won't be jailed for not having insurance. There's no jail penalty for not having insurance.

    Taxes always run the risk of going higher.

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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

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    Makes me sad to think anyone buys this silliness.
    What makes me sad is the sad state of American education which doesn't remember the Cold War and what we had to sacrifice to rid (we thought) of the evils of Communism which murdered 100 million people in the 20th Century. And the kids of today wouldn't even know about it because it isn't even taught. Instead they get a steady diet of how horrible America is.

    That REALLY makes me sad!
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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Young people won't be jailed for not having insurance. There's no jail penalty for not having insurance.

    Taxes always run the risk of going higher.
    They don't get jailed for not having insurance but they do get jailed for not paying the fine. So what's the difference? They are still going to be jailbirds. Invest in prison building futures.
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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    They don't get jailed for not having insurance but they do get jailed for not paying the fine. So what's the difference? They are still going to be jailbirds. Invest in prison building futures.
    Everyone who doesn't pay their taxes faces jail. Nothing new in that. And as there's no reason for either, this isn't much of a concern. But do be honest about what people can go to jail for. It isn't for not having insurance.

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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    What makes me sad is the sad state of American education which doesn't remember the Cold War and what we had to sacrifice to rid (we thought) of the evils of Communism which murdered 100 million people in the 20th Century. And the kids of today wouldn't even know about it because it isn't even taught. Instead they get a steady diet of how horrible America is.

    That REALLY makes me sad!
    I think we know about the cold war and the Red Scare. But using fears of socialism is older than the civil war. Using fears of communism not much newer. I do wish the fear mongering could at least be original.

    And yes, those who need to have their self esteem stroked can't bear to hear that the American government ever made a mistake or did anything wrong, unless of course it was done by a liberal. I get that. But let's try to at least be honest with our paranoia.

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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think we know about the cold war and the Red Scare. But using fears of socialism is older than the civil war. Using fears of communism not much newer. I do wish the fear mongering could at least be original.

    And yes, those who need to have their self esteem stroked can't bear to hear that the American government ever made a mistake or did anything wrong, unless of course it was done by a liberal. I get that. But let's try to at least be honest with our paranoia.
    Nice strawman argument.
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    Re: The Senate & House will successfully pass a reconciled Healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    Nice strawman argument.
    Are you sure you know what a strawman argument is?

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