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Thread: Do animals deserve a right to life?

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Animals don't have rights they cannot conceive. It'd be like giving cavemen nuclear fission... Or a copy of Hobbes' Leviathan.
    They conceive the right to their territory, food, and young and will sometimes fight to the death to defend these. Just because we can't understand them doesn't mean they aren't making statements.

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Animals don't have rights they cannot conceive. It'd be like giving cavemen nuclear fission... Or a copy of Hobbes' Leviathan.
    A newborn can't conceive the concept of a 'right' either. Hell, neither can many adults.

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? I thought birth happened the moment of conception So what is it. Either birth happens at conception or after.
    The word "birth" has two meanings.

    Conception is the moment the new individual "comes into existence" (that's one definition)

    "Birth" is the moment that said (new) individual is delivered from it's mother. (that's two)

    No enlarged text necessary.

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    The word "birth" has two meanings.
    That is great. But you can only be born once. So which one is it. Either you are born at conception. Or you're born during child birth.
    Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion I gain Strength. Through Strength I gain Power. Through Power I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That is great. But you can only be born once. So which one is it. Either you are born at conception. Or you're born during child birth.
    or you're Born again when you accept Jesus and start paying your 10% tithe.

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    or you're Born again when you accept Jesus and start paying your 10% tithe.
    Man, I owe a lot of money.

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Excluding enlightened self-interest, why shouldn't they? Do aardvarks and badgers have the same value? How about carp and sharks? You only think humans are special because you happen to be one.
    Interesting that you think you know what I think.
    Please expound upon this. Be sure to use any and all of my relevant posts to support your position.

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Animals don't have rights they cannot conceive. It'd be like giving cavemen nuclear fission... Or a copy of Hobbes' Leviathan.
    If people and aminals are on the same level, and there is no appreciable difference in their inherent value - given that I can own a dog, what argument is there that I cannot own a black person?

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    Lets immigrate to a country and kill every animal in sight like psychopaths and make the natives cry!

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    Re: Do animals deserve a right to life?

    The answer to this question is simple. We as humans are omnivores. Animals are on the menu for us. Animals are our food.
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