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or you're Born again when you accept Jesus and start paying your 10% tithe.
Man, I owe a lot of money.
or you're Born again when you accept Jesus and start paying your 10% tithe.
Interesting that you think you know what I think.Excluding enlightened self-interest, why shouldn't they? Do aardvarks and badgers have the same value? How about carp and sharks? You only think humans are special because you happen to be one.
If people and aminals are on the same level, and there is no appreciable difference in their inherent value - given that I can own a dog, what argument is there that I cannot own a black person?Animals don't have rights they cannot conceive. It'd be like giving cavemen nuclear fission... Or a copy of Hobbes' Leviathan.
The answer to this question is simple. We as humans are omnivores. Animals are on the menu for us. Animals are our food.
You should come to realize that there is something out there that created life but we don't have a clue what it was.
If your argument against abortion is biological (not spiritual), meaning that embryos/fetuses deserve a "right to life" because they are biologically alive (as is sperm), then why do animals not also deserve a right to life, as biologically they meet all the same criteria, if not moreso. Discuss.
That is great. But you can only be born once. So which one is it. Either you are born at conception. Or you're born during child birth.
That's some impressive doublethink.
Here's something else to think about.
An aborted child (no matter what week of gestation) is just as "born" as is any other child is....
The difference is (Most) aborted children are "born" into the hands of someone who was paid to kill them.
YouTube- Gianna Jessen Abortion Survivor in Australia Part 1
Why are links double posting?
Only one shows up in the edit.
Here's something else to think about.
An aborted child (no matter what week of gestation) is just as "born" as is any other child is....
The difference is (Most) aborted children are "born" into the hands of someone who was paid to kill them.
Some occasionally survivie despite the efforts to kill them.
YouTube- Gianna Jessen Abortion Survivor in Australia Part 1
An aborted child is aborted, you can sling words however you want, but an aborted child is aborted. See, it's right there in the adjective before the noun which describes what the noun is....which is aborted.
Same pregnant woman, same pre-birth child, same doctor, essentially the same surgical procedures,....
You don't know much about abortion, do you? It's nothing like a C-section whatsoever. It's an outpatient surgery that any third-rate veterinarian could perform on his day off.
Why are you coming after me personally, Rat?
The comparison is that the mother can be the same, the doctor, the baby.... all the same.
Many claim that a child isn't a "person" until it is born.
I'm guessing that they would include children who are "surgically" born.
Right?
Well,... like I said... "an aborted baby is just as surgically born as is one delivered by c-section."
It's not personal. There are maybe a handful of issues that I am particularly interested in, and this is one of them. If you were posting the same kind of nonsense about gun control or school reform, you'd really think I was picking on you.
And that makes just about as much sense as your statement that children are born at conception. Aborted babies are not born. The overwhelming majority of them are incapable of being born, and the only thing that abortion has in common with birth is that the fetus is removed from the womb. A more apt analogy would be miscarriage.
Words have meanings. And so far, all of your arguments that I have seen have hinged on abusing the English language to that point that it is no longer useful for meaningful communication.
Scenario #1
A pregnant womangoes to see her doctor, she wants to have her baby delivered on a specific day if at all possible. The Dr. obliges, surgically removes the child by c-section and under the 14th Amendment, the child becomes a citizen of the United States.
Scenerio #2
The same woman goes to her doctor, declares she doesn't want to be pregnant, doesn't want the baby and pays him to "abort the child." By whatever (currently legal) means necessary,.... the Dr. kills then kills and surgically removes the child and disposes of it for her.
Same pregnant woman, same pre-birth child, same doctor, essentially the same surgical procedures,....
Same doctor, same baby, same pregnant woman,...
Same Constitution.
Same words.
Same definitions.
They are what they are,... and It (abortion) is what it is.
I encourage everyone to educate themselves on the issue.
"The proof is out there,... but denial and lies are in your head" --Chuz Life