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Thread: Is the Progressive Movement laboring under a misconception?

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    Re: Is the Progressive Movement laboring under a misconception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Goldwater wasn't a hardliner on Vietnam. He was a hardliner on the spread of communism. There is a distinct difference.
    Doesn't change the fact that he was an interventionist, and supported an aggressive foreign policy. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't have supported Iraq or Afghanistan, especially the latter.

    ORLY? The last administration is proof that religion, in particular far right social conservative christianity is doing its best to infiltrate the high ranks of government. From aides to people like Karl Rove to advisors to the U.S. President. Then you have the many Republican congressmen trying to reintroduce prayer in U.S. schools. Followed by the many Christians who go on rallies whenever they are told that nobody needs to see the 10 commandments in front of a secular court room. These are all huge issues that pop up every year. They might not be as consistent in the attention of the public but they are issues which people spend millions of dollars battling in court over and suing for.
    They are not "huge" issues. They are little blips on the radar that nobody's going to lose any votes over. The fact that millions of dollars are spent in court on these issues is irrelevant; that money is spent by the few people who actually feel strongly about these things. Most Republicans wouldn't change their vote just because they heard that their candidate doesn't support displaying the 10 commandments in a court room. You are much more likely to lose Republican votes, especially from the elderly, by saying that you want to eliminate Medicare.

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    Re: Is the Progressive Movement laboring under a misconception?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I think Most of us understand that the "conservatives" of today...bear little resemblance to the conservative idealogy of Goldwater.
    And you wouldn't respect them or care what Goldwater conservatives thought either, since you are a pretty liberal poster. There is no "I like Goldwater conservatism, but I am going to support modern Democrats" ideal one can truthfully fulfill.
    "Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis

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    Re: Is the Progressive Movement laboring under a misconception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Please re-read the O. P., slowly. Take your time, we'll wait.


    Please re-write the OP, slowly!! Take your time, then maybe it will make a little more sense, and upon careful reading we will actually be able to discern something from it!!
    I'm a Tarte, what!! You want some of this??

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    Re: Is the Progressive Movement laboring under a misconception?

    I think I'm pretty much in that middle-left portion of the left leaning centrists in that there are times when I appreciate those in the middle point of the right wing centrists for their willingness to stand up for the conservation of those liberal principles we have come to love historically, while I often show an equal disdain for the left leaning portion of the left for its abrogation of such and the right leaning portion of the right for the fact it never cared for these principles in the first place, all the time simultaneously advocating those principles once agreed upon as liberal, but now under increasing attack form the left as well as right, leaving me considering the possibility that at some point in the never ending mutation of these political labels I might end up on the left leaning portion of the right wing centrists simply because nobody else realizes the need to conserve liberal values no matter what they are called by clueless lunkheads on both sides of the political spectrum.


    I hope that helps.
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