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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Not only should we sell our organs, but we should be able to buy designer organs...
    I'm fully in favor of allowing people to buy designer organs. In cash.

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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Quite the opposite, actually. If nobody pays for the organs when they're harvested, there's no ground upon which to charge for them when they are implanted, and they will not automatically go to the highest bidder.
    Whether it goes to the highest bidder or to some random person at the top of a waitlist, one more person will have an organ that they need. The only difference is that A) market forces will help make the process more efficient, and B) the person giving up the organ actually gets something in return which will encourage more people to participate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat
    You also won't get old people getting out their calculators and comparing what's left of their retirement fund to kidney futures.
    And what exactly is wrong with that? If they don't need their extra kidney, why SHOULDN'T they be able to extend their retirement for a few more years while simultaneously helping a sick person?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat
    I don't support mandatory organ donation. I merely pointed it out as a better alternative than legalized organlegging.
    So you don't support market forces and you don't support mandatory donation. In other words, you support a long waitlist where thousands of people die each year while they wait in vain for someone to donate an organ out of the goodness of their heart. And why? Because you find the concept of selling body parts to be icky.

    Out of all the possible systems to transplant an organ from one person to another, the status quo has to be one of the worst.
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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    I don't give a rat's whisker about the supply of organs. If your flesh isn't your property then you're a slave.

    Let people sell of bequeath their property as they deem fitting.
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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    I would be against the monetization of people's bodies for the soul reason that it would provide incentive for more organ thefts to take place. As it stands, organs do not cost money. It is a needs-based system. I can only imagine the corruption that would take place if we allowed people to buy them. And let's not even think about how classism would factor into that.

    No way.

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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I would be against the monetization of people's bodies for the soul reason
    sole reason. Grammar Nazi, sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    that it would provide incentive for more organ thefts to take place. As it stands, organs do not cost money.
    People don't steal things that aren't worth anything. Organs do cost, not on the open market, but they do cost.

    [QUOTE=Orius;1058433600]It is a needs-based system. I can only imagine the corruption that would take place if we allowed people to buy them. And let's not even think about how classism would factor into that.

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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    With the supply of useable organs limited, should a person or that person's family be able to sell their organs after they have died?

    Please answer with why or why not.
    No, it creates an underground organ market as the demand far surpasses the supply. What you end up with are people killed for their organs.

    Yes, it's your body, but your choice has far-reaching overwhelmingly negative and harmful affects on others, and so your choice should be restricted.

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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Absolutely, without a doubt.

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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Organ donations save lives, and obviously have no use to dead people. Its downright annoying that we don't use the large amount of dead bodies we have for useful purposes. Anything that gets more use out of an otherwise wasted resource is a bonus in my book. The government can't be trusted with the power to force organ harvesting, but I wish people wouldn't sacrifice the needs of the living to the dead.

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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Organ donations save lives, and obviously have no use to dead people. Its downright annoying that we don't use the large amount of dead bodies we have for useful purposes. Anything that gets more use out of an otherwise wasted resource is a bonus in my book. The government can't be trusted with the power to force organ harvesting, but I wish people wouldn't sacrifice the needs of the living to the dead.
    As long as no money is changing hands, I agree completely.

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    Re: Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I would be against the monetization of people's bodies for the soul reason that it would provide incentive for more organ thefts to take place. As it stands, organs do not cost money.
    They do cost money...the market has simply been driven underground where things like that DO happen. It would be much less likely to happen if we eliminated the black market by legalizing the sale of organs, and requiring that hospitals take precautions to ensure the seller is doing it of his own free will.

    Besides, a few organ thefts are nothing compared to the thousands of deaths that occur each year under the status quo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius
    It is a needs-based system.
    Actually it's a random, put-your-name-on-a-waitlist system. Introducing market forces would be much closer to a needs-based system. While not perfect, the laws of economics would indicate that people who desperately need something tend to be willing to pay more than people who kinda-sorta need something. A waitlist does nothing of the sort.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius
    I can only imagine the corruption that would take place if we allowed people to buy them. And let's not even think about how classism would factor into that.
    All of you guys who keep talking about how repulsive it would be for the rich to receive organs keep forgetting that the alternative is NOT for the poor to receive organs. The alternative is for NO ONE to receive the organs, because most people simply won't donate them out of the goodness of their heart.
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