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Thread: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

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    Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    The process of making a child is "sexual intercourse."

    After that (if it is successfull in creating the new child,..) the only "process" taking place is the "child's" process of growing, developing and maturing.

    The process of creation, the "bringing into existence",...

    The BIRTH (in that respect)..... was completed after a sucessful conception.
    Do you eat cookie dough before you bake it because "well, I've mixed the ingredients so...****, I've got COOKIES!"

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    Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    The process of making a child is "sexual intercourse."

    After that (if it is successfull in creating the new child,..)
    It is scientifically impossible to create a new child through conception. That would be gestation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    the only "process" taking place is the "child's" process of growing, developing and maturing.
    That is scientifically incorrect. Fetuses/embryos are not homosapien by scientific definition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post

    The process of creation, the "bringing into existence",...
    The BIRTH (in that respect)..... was completed after a sucessful conception.
    That is scientifically incorrect. Birth (in the only respect) occurs after the baby has been delivered from the womb. Even anti-abortion people admit this (that's why they call fetuses embryos "unborn").

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    Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    The process of making a child is "sexual intercourse."
    Yeah... weird... where's the sexual intercourse with test tube babies?


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    Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    As far as the supreme court goes, they have not made a ruling on fetal person-hood. There is no scientific criteria either, leaving the term without objective meaning. It ultimately boils down to a subjective discussion about what qualities a fetus posses, what qualities a person possess, and if they overlap.

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    Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Yeah... weird... where's the sexual intercourse with test tube babies?
    That Tuckers day job actually, as he is the only guy capable of fitting in the test tube.

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    Exclamation Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yeah... weird... where's the sexual intercourse with test tube babies?

    Sexual intercourse is one process (the one we are all most familiar with) for achieving conception.... I didn't mean to imply that it couldn't be done in another way.

    And thank you,.. Invitro fertilization actually helps to make the point (doesn't it?) that a child's life begins at conception.

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    Exclamation Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Do you eat cookie dough before you bake it because "well, I've mixed the ingredients so...****, I've got COOKIES!"
    If cookies were living organisms,... you might have a point.

    But they are not.

    When you mix the ingrediants required to begin a child's life (sperm and egg)... the life begins.

    "offspring" being the end product in creating a new organism,... conception achieves this task. (the rest is growth and further development)

    The same can not be said for inanimate objects which do not have a life of their own.

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    Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    If cookies were living organisms,... you might have a point.

    But they are not.

    When you mix the ingrediants required to begin a child's life (sperm and egg)... the life begins.

    "offspring" being the end product in creating a new organism,... conception achieves this task. (the rest is growth and further development)

    The same can not be said for inanimate objects which do not have a life of their own.
    Living organism or not, we're talking about the stage at which we recognize it as a final product.

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    Attn2 Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Living organism or not, we're talking about the stage at which we recognize it as a final product.
    No,...

    Well,.. maybe YOU are...

    I'm talking about the protection of someone's life from the moment it begins.... not just from the moment YOU can no longer stomach denying it.

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    Re: What aspect of a person does the Constitution protect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    No,...

    Well,.. maybe YOU are...

    I'm talking about the protection of someone's life from the moment it begins.... not just from the moment YOU can no longer stomach denying it.
    Which is...when? At what point?

    For bonus points, no opinions here, documented, scientific evidence if you can.


    ok....GO!

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