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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    "life" biologically begins at conception. This "life" isn't a homo sapien until it is capable of being self-sustaining and cognitive thought. Until then it only has the potential of being a homo sapien.
    Really?

    That's what the medical books say, that comatose patients with no expected recovery aren't members of the species homo sapiens?

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Biologically, that zygote is considered human from the moment of conception.
    Yup, it is indeed human because it carries a human genetic structure. Your fingernails are human too, so is your blood, so is your appendix, so are lots of things you shed or can get rid of through surgical means and be none the worse for wear. But just being human doesn't mean it's automatically protected by law.
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Really?

    That's what the medical books say, that comatose patients with no expected recovery aren't members of the species homo sapiens?

    If there brains are functioning and they are capable of cognitive though through conscious or unconscious levels then they are Homo Sapiens. If not, they are Dead Homo Sapiens.

    There isn't enough scientific methods to determine if a comatose patient is living or dead. Over the years many comatose patients thought to be lost causes have successfully recovered.

    A Zygote, on the other hand has no chance of gaining cognitive thought until it biologically evolves into an embryo and then a fetus. The Fetus is the only stage where the you can say it is a human and not just the potential of being human.
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    joke Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    A Zygote, on the other hand has no chance of gaining cognitive thought until it biologically evolves into an embryo and then a fetus. The Fetus is the only stage where the you can say it is a human and not just the potential of being human.
    This (above) is unsupported wishful thinking.

    Brain function is not a requirement for "personhood."
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    This (above) is unsupported wishful thinking.

    Brain function is not a requirement for "personhood."
    It is in my opinion, which is supported by the law and by all of the biological, ethical, and semantic arguments I have posted.
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    This (above) is unsupported wishful thinking.

    Brain function is not a requirement for "personhood."
    Holy ****ing ****. If THAT isn't a requirement, then what the hell is? Jesus christ.

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    Thumbs up Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    It is in my opinion, which is supported by the law and by all of the biological, ethical, and semantic arguments I have posted.
    The absense of any links to cites or references to support this claim (of yours) is hereby noted.
    Last edited by Chuz Life; 01-14-10 at 11:03 PM.

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    Question Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Holy ****ing ****. If THAT isn't a requirement, then what the hell is? Jesus christ.
    Jesus?

    Is that you?

    Where the hell have you been?

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    This (above) is unsupported wishful thinking.

    Brain function is not a requirement for "personhood."
    Un supported wishful thinking? How many Zygotes do you know that have developed into functional humans outside of the womb?
    Last edited by Gibberish; 01-15-10 at 12:48 AM.
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    This (above) is unsupported wishful thinking.

    Brain function is not a requirement for "personhood."
    Its scientifically confirmed that a zygote and 1st and 2nd trimester fetus do NOT possess the necessary biological equipment thought or consciousness.

    Thus, a functioning brain IS a necessary pre-requisite for "personhood".

    Do you have any evidence to present that cognitive abilities do not require a developed/undamaged brain? If not then there is no need to entertain your speculation.
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