See, that's really where your problem lies. Let's look back at EpicDude86's original statement:Originally Posted by Chuz Life
Now you're asserting that your daughter has a "just" claim to life. First off, she is neither mentally nor physically able to make such a claim, no child can even comprehend the philosophical implications of such a claim so that's no surprise there. Secondly, you assert a "just" claim. What makes it just? This is a purely subjective viewpoint. What you consider just, others may not and vice versa. Since there is no objective definition of what is just and what is not, whether or not a claim is "just" or not is really irrelevant.Originally Posted by EpicDude86
Once again, you're taking a purely emotional, personal position and insisting that it have objective application. You think that way, therefore that's the way it ought to be for everyone. You haven't constructed a logical framework and objective argument around your claim to explain *WHY* it ought to be universal, you've just wildly leapt from your feelings to unsupported assertions that they must be true.
It's not necessarily true until you can logically support it that way.
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If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!
Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.
Sorry, your statements aren't improving, if anything they're getting more irrational.
OP (I'm in late)
Is a seed a tree?
An egg a chicken?
What level of 'life' are we talking about - cells are merely cells. . . the building blocks of life, not life itself. . . they're where things begin - their presence doesn't mean that A) Life is imminent. B) Life is infallible C) Life is permanent.
A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
You lot are misrepresenting the concept of natural rights again...
A "right" is just a moral affirmation or sentiment; a philosophical concept. Saying they don't exist is just a strawman, because moral sentiments do not become valid by virtue of their tangibility.
I invented the idea of an able bodied person arguing for the rights of one who is not so able. (Proxy)
I'm so ashamed.