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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Life is a long, unbroken chain stretching back millions of years. A particular genetic combination starts at conception, but that doesn't mean that before this moment, there was no life and after, there was life. Using conception as a decision point makes little sense.
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    A human zygote is a child (human being/ person) in the most narrow and basic sense. An adult human is likewise a "person."

    Both are persons,..

    A Ford Pinto and a Ferarri are both cars (automobiles). I don't have to equate the two to recognize the fact that they are both automobiles.
    No it's not, any more than a seed is a tree or an egg is a chicken. They may eventually become something else, but a human zygote isn't a child until it is born because that's how the word is defined.
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No it's not, any more than a seed is a tree or an egg is a chicken. They may eventually become something else, but a human zygote isn't a child until it is born because that's how the word is defined.
    Except that a child that comes out a day early isn't less alive. Which side of the vagina you're on is kind of arbitrary.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Except that a child that comes out a day early isn't less alive. Which side of the vagina you're on is kind of arbitrary.
    Because it's been born. Full-term doesn't mean born, there are plenty that come out late, they're no more or less born until they're actually on the outside. Once they are, they achieve particular rights, not one second before.
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because it's been born. Full-term doesn't mean born, there are plenty that come out late, they're no more or less born until they're actually on the outside. Once they are, they achieve particular rights, not one second before.
    My daughter was born at (estimated) 26.5 weeks. (Preemie)

    She weighed 5lbs at birth but lost weight after she was induced.

    Her mother had Toxemia. Her body was rejecting the baby and one or both were going to die if the pregnancy continued.

    Late, early, inside the womb or out.

    My daughter had a right to her life,.... from the moment her life began.

    I didn't see a non person "fetus" turn into a child in that delivery room.

    I seen my daughter fighting for her life and unable to do so without a lot of help from others.

    This baby is even smaller than my daughter was. But I did the same thing to show people how tiny she was,... I put her whole hand through my (size 10.5) wedding band.



    Your words or her reality....

    Which do you think affects me more?
    Last edited by Chuz Life; 12-21-09 at 10:43 AM.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Except that a child that comes out a day early isn't less alive. Which side of the vagina you're on is kind of arbitrary.
    Well how about attachment via umbilical then?

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    My daughter was born at (estimated) 26.5 weeks. (Preemie)

    She weighed 5lbs at birth but lost weight after she was induced.

    Her mother had Toxemia. Her body was rejecting the baby and one or both were going to die if the pregnancy continued.

    Late, early, inside the womb or out.

    My daughter had a right to her life,.... from the moment her life began.

    I didn't see a non person "fetus" turn into a child in that delivery room.

    I seen my daughter fighting for her life and unable to do so without a lot of help from others.

    This baby is even smaller than my daughter was. But I did the same thing to show people how tiny she was,... I put her whole hand through my (size 10.5) wedding band.



    Your words or her reality....

    Which do you think affects me more?
    1. Thank Goodness your daughter made it.

    2. Right to Life is a human made (or Supernatural being made) concept, and what nature gives you is a "chance" at life. No guarantees. Toxemia is a perfect good of the chances slimming in favor of the child. If everyone has an innate or natural "right to life", the level of natural miscarriages would not be where it is, right?

    3. You didn't see a non-person fetus turn into a child because your vision is filtered by Love and an emotional connection to your daughter. It's easy for "Her Reality" to affect you more because of this emotional connection, and while that's beautiful that you feel that way, it is a subjective mode of thinking, not that it's bad, just subjective which is why "Her Reality" will affect you more than the words posted on this forum.

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    Exclamation Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Well how about attachment via umbilical then?
    The umbilical cord(made up of cells produced by the child) attaches the child to it's placenta (also produced by the child).

    It is a common mis-perception that prebirth children are attached to their mother's by their umbilical cords.

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    shocked2 Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    1. Thank Goodness your daughter made it.

    2. Right to Life is a human made (or Supernatural being made) concept, and what nature gives you is a "chance" at life. No guarantees. Toxemia is a perfect good of the chances slimming in favor of the child. If everyone has an innate or natural "right to life", the level of natural miscarriages would not be where it is, right?

    3. You didn't see a non-person fetus turn into a child because your vision is filtered by Love and an emotional connection to your daughter. It's easy for "Her Reality" to affect you more because of this emotional connection, and while that's beautiful that you feel that way, it is a subjective mode of thinking, not that it's bad, just subjective which is why "Her Reality" will affect you more than the words posted on this forum.
    I was anti-abortion before my dughter was even conceived.

    More significant than that? Just to share some personal information, my daughters mother and I were seperated when she was conceived. (On again off again relationship) I was leaving the State for school in Virginia when we found out she was pregnant.

    I had everythng to gain and nothing to lose if my daughter were aborted or miscarried.

    But the facts are what they are and I refuse to live in the denial of those facts as you seem to be able to.

    Nice try.
    Last edited by Chuz Life; 12-21-09 at 11:32 AM.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I was anti-abortion before my dughter was even conceived.

    Nice try.
    What is the point of this statement? Please tell me what you took as the meaning of my post.

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