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Thread: Does life biologically begin at conception?

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so masturbation is mass murder?
    Have you ever watched Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life"? You should check it out if not. There's a cute little tune in it titled "Every Sperm is Sacred". I highly recommend it for those who can see humor in just about every human belief.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

    As you can see,.. Our founders already brought force to bear to secure the right that "all men" (all of mankind) has a right to their life, liberty,...
    No, they used force to declare and protect the rights of those within this country's borders... the only people they CAN grants rights to. Just as every other country in the world does for the people within THEIR borders.

    Additionally, what our founding fathers 'declare' isn't what is necessarily 'true'.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    I dont think she can reproduce with a microscopic penis.
    What does that matter? I think you're a bit confused.

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    fyi Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, they used force to declare and protect the rights of those within this country's borders... the only people they CAN grants rights to. Just as every other country in the world does for the people within THEIR borders.

    Additionally, what our founding fathers 'declare' isn't what is necessarily 'true'.
    I have the Constitutional right to defend not only my own rights,... but also the rights of others.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I have the Constitutional right to defend not only my own rights,... but also the rights of others.
    Yeah but you have to be careful. Sometimes people don't want or need your defending.

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    Thumbs up Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Yeah but you have to be careful. Sometimes people don't want or need your defending.
    I'll take my chances.

    Say good night gracie,...

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I'll take my chances.

    Say good night gracie,...
    Hmmm...wait to be asked or wait until it's clear that someone needs help, or gallivant around like a pompous white knight...

    I'll take the first option.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    Phat,.. If an individual is not conceived,.. will it ever reach gastulation?

    Were You not conceived?
    If an egg cell is never ovulated.. will it ever reach fertilization?

    If an ovary never receives puberty hormones.. will it ever ovulate?

    Fertilization is just a minor step in the process of reproduction. The entire process is alive. Biological life began a long time ago, probably by chemical evolution or creation.

    Biologically I would agree that gastrulation is more important than fertilization. The DNA received from the sperm cell is inactive until the process of gastrulation begins. Additionally, this is the point when twinning stops, ensuring individuality.

    Gastrulation is also when interspecies hybrids die. A half-monkey half-human can survive until gastrulation. Actually you could probably fertilize an egg cell with a piece of cheese if you wanted to. Sperm is just a delivery system for DNA. Cheese has DNA.
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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Biologically I would agree that gastrulation is more important than fertilization. The DNA received from the sperm cell is inactive until the process of gastrulation begins. Additionally, this is the point when twinning stops, ensuring individuality.
    Actually in humans that's probably not quite true. The mid-blastula transition hasn't been determined in humans as far as I know.

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    Re: Does life biologically begin at conception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I have the Constitutional right to defend not only my own rights,... but also the rights of others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I'll take my chances.

    Say good night gracie,...
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