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Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

Was it correct to suspend this teacher for taking the students to "Hooters" restauran

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disneydude said:
A high school teacher took her male choir to "Hooters" restaurant after performing Christmas carols. As a result she was suspended.

What do you think? Should this teacher have been suspended for this?

Here is the article: Paradise Valley High School teacher who took students to Hooters in Phoenix is put on leave


Personally, I think it is ridiculous. "Hooters" is not a strip club. It is a restaurant, not reallly different from Chili's or TGI Fridays and I doubt the teacher would have been suspended for that.

The reality is....the parents of ONE boy complained.
Which raises a bigger question....should the parents of one child dictate what is "appropriate" for everyone else?
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Back in high school we used to get a day off to study for exams at mid-term and end of semester. A bunch of us boys went to Hooters to study. It's not like they were at the damned Sugar Shack. The most perverted thing about Hooter's is that horrid sauce they put on those fatty, gristly things they call wings.

No, she should not have been suspended. Especially not over the complaints of one kid's mom.
 
disneydude said:
Thank you Rev...that is a perfect example...though I must say, she is larger chested than most of the Hooters waitresses I've seen.
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You should try going to the Hooters in Anchorage, Alaska. All the waitresses there are the rejects that weren't hot enough to work at the Bush Company or The PJ Club. And the one in Palmer? Hehehe, I don't think there's a full set of teeth between the entire wait staff. :lol:
 
Sexuality is a sensitive subject. That's why teachers tend to avoid sexual tainted comments, eventhough they may be widely used outside the classroom. You want to keep a certain distance, as these kids are required to respect you.
 
Djoop said:
Sexuality is a sensitive subject. That's why teachers tend to avoid sexual tainted comments, eventhough they may be widely used outside the classroom. You want to keep a certain distance, as these kids are required to respect you.
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I know once one of our classmates started boning our drama teacher in high school, no one really respected her much anymore. We pretended to respect her so maybe we could bone her too because she was hot. But we didn't really respect her.
 
Hooters has terrible food.
 
disneydude said:
A high school teacher took her male choir to "Hooters" restaurant after performing Christmas carols. As a result she was suspended.

What do you think? Should this teacher have been suspended for this?

Here is the article: Paradise Valley High School teacher who took students to Hooters in Phoenix is put on leave


Personally, I think it is ridiculous. "Hooters" is not a strip club. It is a restaurant, not reallly different from Chili's or TGI Fridays and I doubt the teacher would have been suspended for that.

The reality is....the parents of ONE boy complained.
Which raises a bigger question....should the parents of one child dictate what is "appropriate" for everyone else?
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No, but parents who read the Bible to their kids should be charged with giving minors access to adult material since it contains passages about incest, rape, bestiality, murder, prostitution, etc.

lol
 
jallman said:
I know once one of our classmates started boning our drama teacher in high school, no one really respected her much anymore. We pretended to respect her so maybe we could bone her too because she was hot. But we didn't really respect her.
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LOL

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I clearly missed out in my high school experience. :(
 
Toothpicvic said:
No, but parents who read the Bible to their kids should be charged with giving minors access to adult material since it contains passages about incest, rape, bestiality, murder, prostitution, etc.

lol
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I highly doubt a parent would be reading select passages about rape, incest, bestiality, murder, and prostitution to their kids. Let's not be hysterical now.
 
Redress said:
Any teacher ignorant enough to not realize at least one parent was likely to complain should not be teaching. I think it is a silly thing for a parent to complain about, but that is irrelevant. You had to know it would happen.
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I think this woman was quite young. It is quite naive, I agree, that she didn't realize that there is quite a broad spectrum of society that has children in the school system. I'm sure this will be a learning experience for her.
 
jallman said:
I highly doubt a parent would be reading select passages about rape, incest, bestiality, murder, and prostitution to their kids. Let's not be hysterical now.
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I was being sarcastic. But whoever got offended by this needs to get a fuggin life or just get laid. The human body is not evil, Xians! If God thought it was, he would have made us all Angels.
 
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MyOwnDrum said:
I think this woman was quite young. It is quite naive, I agree, that she didn't realize that there is quite a broad spectrum of society that has children in the school system. I'm sure this will be a learning experience for her
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And those people can go to hell for being too afraid to talk about this stuff in a mature manner with their kids, which leads to their kids being morons about it and having babies when they're in high school and then giving them up for adoption which causes massive problems not only in the adoption system but in these abandoned kids' lives, as well.
 
I see from the article that the teacher is actually near retirement. I guess she's throwing caution to the wind since she's almost out of there.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
And those people can go to hell for being too afraid to talk about this stuff in a mature manner with their kids, which leads to their kids being morons about it and having babies when they're in high school and then giving them up for adoption which causes massive problems not only in the adoption system but in these abandoned kids' lives, as well.
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LOL, YOU have ALL the solutions I see! :rolleyes: :rofl
 
Djoop said:
LOL

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I clearly missed out in my high school experience. :(
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I think when you put a 22 year old in charge of a bunch of 18 year olds, some lines get blurred.
 
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LOL, YOU have ALL the solutions I see
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Sometimes you just need to rant.

But yes, I do support punching people in the face if they're crazy enough. I think everyone has a threshold where they'd like to if someone crosses it. :)
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Sometimes you just need to rant.

But yes, I do support punching people in the face if they're crazy enough. I think everyone has a threshold where they'd like to if someone crosses it. :)
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On that we can agree. :)
 
jackalope said:
Very good. Glad the AZ Hooters has a kids' menu. However, the main Hooter's site does not. And that's because they are not a family restaurant.


And Hooter's is not a family restaurant.


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you impose a(n arbitrary) litmus test for a family restaurant to be one which has a kid's meal on its menu ... at least until you learn that hooters does have a kid's meal on its menu

thanks for the laugh
 
Redress said:
Any teacher ignorant enough to not realize at least one parent was likely to complain should not be teaching. I think it is a silly thing for a parent to complain about, but that is irrelevant. You had to know it would happen.
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I suppose it is pretty stupid to expect adults to be intelligent rational people. Every high school kid sees things far more explicit than a hooters every day!! The reason my generation(I am 25) is so ****ed up is because we have a bunch of adults attempting to micromanage our lives. We are never able to test ourselves, make our own decisions. Then kids turn 18 or 22 or 23(depending on circumstances) and they are thrown out into the real world having never had do to anything for themselves, and they are not capable. I was lucky, I had a father who raised me right when I was little, and then when I became a young adult he told me he trusted me and for me to make him proud. I do my best every day. I certainly work harder at it than I would had he stood over my shoulder every second trying to protect me from the evils of the world. You know, like cleavage!! :roll:
 
Frodly said:
I suppose it is pretty stupid to expect adults to be intelligent rational people. Every high school kid sees things far more explicit than a hooters every day!! The reason my generation(I am 25) is so ****ed up is because we have a bunch of adults attempting to micromanage our lives. We are never able to test ourselves, make our own decisions. Then kids turn 18 or 22 or 23(depending on circumstances) and they are thrown out into the real world having never had do to anything for themselves, and they are not capable. I was lucky, I had a father who raised me right when I was little, and then when I became a young adult he told me he trusted me and for me to make him proud. I do my best every day. I certainly work harder at it than I would had he stood over my shoulder every second trying to protect me from the evils of the world. You know, like cleavage!! :roll:
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It's a parents job to micromanage their children's lives. I might not agree with what they deem appropriate or not, but I am not going to condemn them for taking an interest. For some, Hooters might not to them be appropriate for taking kids to, both for the Hooters "theme" or just because alcohol is served there. That is a parents right, and it is predictable that a parent might object.
 
justabubba said:
you impose a(n arbitrary) litmus test for a family restaurant to be one which has a kid's meal on its menu ... at least until you learn that hooters does have a kid's meal on its menu

thanks for the laugh
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Actually, the arbitrary litmus test was their website. And, I stated that their website does not have a kids menu, b/c they do not encourage kids as patrons. That is not their demo, and not their market.

I used common sense to determine it's not a family restaurant. Not really that hard. Perhaps all y'all thinking Hooters IS a family restaurant should learn what a family restaurant is, how they market themselves, what they might use to attract that demo, and other things that would show up in a family restaurant business plan.

Hooters' business model isn't it. :rofl:
 
Redress said:
It's a parents job to micromanage their children's lives. I might not agree with what they deem appropriate or not, but I am not going to condemn them for taking an interest. For some, Hooters might not to them be appropriate for taking kids to, both for the Hooters "theme" or just because alcohol is served there. That is a parents right, and it is predictable that a parent might object.
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I can not think of a sit down restaurant I have ever been to where alcohol is not served!! And it is parents who think it is their job to micromanage their kids lives who end up with kids incapable of managing their own lives. Kids need to be allowed to make their own decisions beyond a certain age. When they are 5, they need more supervision. But 17 year old kids, all that is doing is making them less capable people!!
 
jackalope said:
Actually, the arbitrary litmus test was their website. And, I stated that their website does not have a kids menu, b/c they do not encourage kids as patrons. That is not their demo, and not their market.

I used common sense to determine it's not a family restaurant. Not really that hard. Perhaps all y'all thinking Hooters IS a family restaurant should learn what a family restaurant is, how they market themselves, what they might use to attract that demo, and other things that would show up in a family restaurant business plan.

Hooters' business model isn't it. :rofl:
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You are arbitrarily defining terms of what makes a restaurant a family restaurant in order to fit your argument. People take their family to hooters, it is a family restaurant. I personally would not take little kids their, but many people do.
 
Frodly said:
I can not think of a sit down restaurant I have ever been to where alcohol is not served!! And it is parents who think it is their job to micromanage their kids lives who end up with kids incapable of managing their own lives. Kids need to be allowed to make their own decisions beyond a certain age. When they are 5, they need more supervision. But 17 year old kids, all that is doing is making them less capable people!!
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I find this argument to be completely besides the point. What is the issue is boundaries, and what is appropriate for a school field trip. Not whether or not kids should be allowed into a Hooters restaurant, or whether high schoolers might go there to study for final exams.

And, I find lack of appreciation for the fact that something appropriate for one set of circumstances (personal, non-school outings) and what might be appropriate for school outings, to be evidence of lack of full maturity.
 
Frodly said:
You are arbitrarily defining terms of what makes a restaurant a family restaurant in order to fit your argument. People take their family to hooters, it is a family restaurant. I personally would not take little kids their, but many people do.
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No, I'm not. People stating that Hooters is a family restaurant b/c a kid can eat a meal there are re-defining terms arbitrarily for their own benefit, and completely disregarding what a family restaurant might do, in terms of marketing, to promote a successful family restaurant model.

Hooters is clearly a successful business model. What it is not is a family restaurant business model.
 
jackalope said:
I find this argument to be completely besides the point. What is the issue is boundaries, and what is appropriate for a school field trip. Not whether or not kids should be allowed into a Hooters restaurant, or whether high schoolers might go there to study for final exams.

And, I find lack of appreciation for the fact that something appropriate for one set of circumstances (personal, non-school outings) and what might be appropriate for school outings, to be evidence of lack of full maturity.
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I find thinking boobs are icky shows a lack of maturity personally!! I find people who get offended at nonsense which does not matter to show a lack of maturity. But what are you going to do? There are boundaries which schools should not cross, but in a high school, hooters is not even close to the boundary!!
 
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