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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    I think parents that worry about their teens being exposed to titillation at establishments like Hooters are too uptight. I think people (in this country) are so freaked out about sexuality.

    HOWEVER! That is my opinion. There is a large faction of people who have views about sexuality that are far different than mine. While I disagree with them, I respect their prerogative to raise their children according to their own good conscience. I believe this teacher definitely crossed that line. There are plenty of parents who would disagree with the choice. I'd say average across the nation at least 30%

    A good chewing out and warning. No suspension. I voted no.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    i don't think she should have been suspended, i can go to my local shopping centre in summer and see women dressed similar to hooters restraunts.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so hooters does have the kid's meal that you cited as a defining indicator of a restaurant acceptable for families ... that has been proven
    but now that the facts disturb your position you choose to ignore them
    the moved goal post is that your uncommon common sense allows you to divine what constitutes family fare and any who disagree with your opinion are in error
    not a very compelling argument
    No, I never stated that they did not have a kids' menu. In fact, I went back and edited my post before time ran out b/c it was ambiguous. What I stated is that their website does not have a kids menu (and it doesn't, regardless of what the AZ site has), b/c they do not encourage kids as patrons. It is not their target demo.


    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    Yes, I realize chuckie cheese is a family restaurant, and only restaurants of that nature seem to fit your definition of a "family restaurant" The problem with that is that if you tried to take a bunch of high school kids to a chuckie cheese they would cause a lot more trouble than they would at a hooters.

    No, it is not 'my definition' of a family restaurant. A 'family restaurant' targets families, b/c that is their market niche, and that is their target demo. What the deal is, is actually that Hooters is not a family restaurant. In fact, in 2006 only 10 percent of their sales were to families, and that was after making a concerted effort to become more friendly to kids and women. They made this effort b/c of continued zoning problems and other licensing issues. It was becoming an impediment to their business, so they made an effort to tone down their image some, however, their target demo is men, and they are selling sex appeal via Hooters girls.

    This is recognition of what they are. Not pretending that b/c someone spotted a kid in a restaurant once, it's a family restaurant.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    as a parent, the way you control your children's activities is not to sign off on authority for others to control them ... when signing that authorization you then authorize the other person's judgment to be used instead of your own - as in this instance

    easy fix for you and those like you; don't allow your kids to interact in such activities and you will then be sure they will not be exposed to that with which you disagree, no matter how lawful that exposure might be (again, as in this instance)

    in short, you don't get it both ways. you don't pawn your kids off on someone else and then complain when someone else engages in a legal activity you do not approve. the way you exercise that control is by not authorizing the activity. too easy ... but complaining and monday morning quarterbacking appears to be more fun
    When you sign off on a teacher's authority you expect them to have good judgment. Taking high school students to Hooters is not good judgment. A suspension might be an excessive consequence but I would be concerned about the teacher's judgment in general if she thought this was OK. A smart teacher lets the parent know ahead of time where they plan to eat and have the parents approval before. A smart teacher also knows how easy it is to offend some parents and is very careful about those kind of choices.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    How so? I'm still trying to find a logical argument for how children in Hooters in appropriate. As DisneyDude stated earlier, I think most of the people upset with this have some serious misconceptions about what Hooters actually is.
    Here's your logical argument. Hooters means breasts. I would not allow my students to say the word hooters let alone go to the restaurant. I don't understand why people insist on pretending it is a family place. The purpose is to stare at sexy women while eating fried food. A fine activity for adult males but not for teenage boys on a school outing.

    I wonder how people would feel if it were a male teacher taking girls to a restaurant called, oh I don't know, Ding-Dongs. All the waiters are sexy men wearing no shirt, very tight pants and perhaps chaps.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    I feel she made a bad choice and it should be up to parents if they want their kids hanging at Hooters.

    I do not feel she should be suspended and I am the most open-minded person ever but you do not take kids to places like this without persmisson.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. Hooters is a family restaurant....like a chili's or Applebees. The only difference is that the waitresses wear shorts and are generally (but not always) bigger chested than the average female.
    I've been to many a "Hooters" and generally, I see all age range in the restaurant. Unfortunately....many people perpetuate the myth that it is somehow a strip club or in the vein.
    Umm. They do not wear simple shorts. They wear shorts up to their ass. Lets be real here.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    no they usually look like:





    Though usually a little more chunky, older, and a few c-section scars.
    Damn Rev, where is your hooters located at. The girls in my local hooters here in Plano Tx are just as hot as the one in your pic if not hotter. But this is Texas after all.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    She should have known to cover her ass by getting permission for this. Parents do have a right to not want their kids exposed to "temptation" like this. These are the same types that won't let their kids watch Disney Channel due to the "Jezebels" that come from that network.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It is a restaurant, not reallly different from Chili's or TGI Fridays and I doubt the teacher would have been suspended for that.
    I disagree with this portion of your claim. They aren't the same as the other restaurants you mentioned. Hooters is more a sports bar than a restaurant. I checked both (and a couple more) restaurant's web sites and not a single lingerie clad girl like I found on Hooter's web site. They market to an adult clientele. The obviously have no problem objectifying women.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The reality is....the parents of ONE boy complained.
    Which raises a bigger question....should the parents of one child dictate what is "appropriate" for everyone else?
    The parent of one child should certainly dictate what is appropriate for their child. I doubt they are much worried about the other kids. As I stated previously, they objectify women. I could see where someone (a feminist maybe?) would take issue with their child going to Hooters.
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