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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    The teacher's explanation that there was no alternative that could accommodate such a large group appears to not be holding up (the kids voted ahead of time - a vote implies choices). Also, at least one kid was made uncomfortable by the choice.


    This was just not appropriate at all for a school outing. Including the apparent dishonesty by the teacher that there was no alternative.





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    Another student on the trip, Keith Schliechter, said when one of the 40 student seemed a little uncomfortable with the choice or restaurants, he was offered an alternative.

    "They even offered to the kid that complained about it, they offered to take him down to Subway or some other place that was right down there and he said it was fine. He said he didn’t need to. It seemed like everything was fine and then his mother heard of it and I guess got all upset,” said Schliechter.


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    One parent, whose daughter went on the field trip, said she didn’t see anything wrong with the students eating at Hooters. She also added that she knew several days in advance that was the plan all along because her daughter told her the kids took a vote.


    Teacher Put On Leave After Hooters Trip - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Suspending the teacher seems a little drastic. I completely agree that it was a stupid thing to do and the teacher should've been chewed out by the school administrator. But unless this is part of a pattern of bad judgment, suspending the teacher seems a bit harsh.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A lack of a children's menu on their main site does not mean they are not kid friendly. A main site is not always going to list every single they serve(its usually like that for a lot of websites for other types of businesses as well) The main website for popeye's chicken does not list a children's menu but some of the regional websites do, does that mean Popeyes chicken is not kids friendly? You can walk into any Popeyes and find a kids menu just as I am sure you can walk into any Hooter's and find a kids menu.

    Popeyes® Louisiana Kitchen - New Orleans Cajun Fried Chicken Restaurant Franchise

    Washington D.C. area
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    Their video and calendar and website art makes that apparent (the fact of what kind of restaurant it is), in case anyone really didn't know what a Hooters was.


    And a family restaurant it's not.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Suspending the teacher seems a little drastic. I completely agree that it was a stupid thing to do and the teacher should've been chewed out by the school administrator. But unless this is part of a pattern of bad judgment, suspending the teacher seems a bit harsh.

    I agree with this, completely.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Any teacher ignorant enough to not realize at least one parent was likely to complain should not be teaching. I think it is a silly thing for a parent to complain about, but that is irrelevant. You had to know it would happen.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Their video and calendar and website art makes that apparent (the fact of what kind of restaurant it is), in case anyone really didn't know what a Hooters was.


    And a family restaurant it's not.
    Their side activities does not make the themed restaurant not kid friendly.Firefighters sell calendars sometimes of barely dress men to raise money, does that mean we should stop buying our children toy fire trucks or not to pretend to be firemen? Of course their adult menu not aimed at kids so it is going to be different, thats why their kids menu looks like this.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Their side activities does not make the themed restaurant not kid friendly.Firefighters sell calendars sometimes of barely dress men to raise money, does that mean we should stop buying our children toy fire trucks or not to pretend to be firemen? Of course their adult menu not aimed at kids so it is going to be different, thats why their kids menu looks like this.

    The fact that they can feed a kid doesn't make it a family restaurant. Pretending it is something it is not, is dishonest. As the website says, it's been 25 years, we know what Hooters is about.


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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    The fact that they can feed a kid doesn't make it a family restaurant. Pretending it is something it is not, is dishonest. As the website says, it's been 25 years, we know what Hooters is about.

    If such a restaurant was not kid friendly then would be laws against them serving children just as there are laws that do not let minors into bars, liquor stores,casinos or strip clubs in various states across the country.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If such a restaurant was not kid friendly then would be laws against them serving children just as there are laws that do not let minors into bars, liquor stores,casinos or strip clubs in various states across the country.

    Not everything that is not age-restricted is appropriate for a school field trip. And that kid that was made uncomfortable by the choice shouldn't have been put in that position. Peer scorn, on one hand, or skip a possibly otherwise enriching school field trip on the other hand.


    There really isn't a good argument for taking kids to Hooters. If it's just like an Applebees, Chilis, or Pop-eye's, then go to one of those instead. I'm sure Phoenix a chain restaurant other than Hooters. Or a local restaurant.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    I think this teacher should be given a huge raise, a bonus, and a lifetime supply of Hooters.

    And yes, I am serious. Parents like this make me want to punch them (the parents, not the kids...or the hooters).
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