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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Did I say I thought they should have to do it? Nope.

    I do think the more info. schools send home in reguards to what is going down at school? The more parental involvement the school will see-which is a good thing.

    At this point I am starting to wonder do you own stock in Hooters or something?
    No....I just don't believe in micromanagement. We could set up a system where parents had total input into everything going on it a school...including the books that are allowed in the library. I think you have to find a happy medium. People can be way too overly sensitive. I think we need to stand back and recognize that these were high school kids. Not 8 year olds. I think when you do that, you see how ridiculous those calling for suspension really are.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Scenario: A coach and his team are at a weekend event, staying in a hotel. The students want to eat and they pick McDonald's; does the coach need to ask permission?
    Hooters is not MacDonalds. Hooters is unlike almost every other restaurant/bar out there and THAT is the point. It is not comparable, hence your scenario is moot.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Hooters is not MacDonalds. Hooters is unlike almost every other restaurant/bar out there and THAT is the point. It is not comparable, hence your scenario is moot.
    let's see
    hooters has food and is open to the public
    like any other restaurant


    please describe why it is not

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No, you're missing my point.
    I understand your point perfectly, actually. What you are doing is trying to have me answer irrelevant questions that you think will help prove your point.

    There ARE some people who think the "family unit" is an arbitrary social construct that perpetuates patriarchal authoritarianism. So, should coaches stop taking their kids to family restaurants in order to remain sensitive to uber-feminist, fringe leftists? If not, then why should we remain sensitive to uber-religious, fringe rightists?
    IF I remember correctly, you either stated or indicated that I was one of these people, "who think the "family unit" is an arbitrary social construct that perpetuates patriarchal authoritarianism". In fact, I think that you stated it directly....

    Also, I am against coaches taking students to Hooters which should not be classified as a "family restaurant" and I am Conservative... there goes your stereotype I guess.

    Can't fit everything into a nice little box...

    Hooters IS a mainstream restaurant. It's perfectly legal for ANYONE to patronize. The fact that the waitresses dress "sexy" is totally irrelevant since female sexuality is a societal norm. If you don't like the mainstream then you should endeavor to change it, but pretending like you can shield your child from it is just unrealistic.
    The fact that waitresses dress "sexy" is TOTALLY RELEVANT and Hooters IS NOT a mainstream restaurant and I'm not certain that it should be OK to take kids there either... the fact that they dress sexy is the entire point, one that you completely fail to acknowldge, instead opting to lrepeat that it is legal and anybody that disagrees should give up since they have no point when it is exactly the opposite...

    If teachers can bring their kids to a family restaurant without worrying about offending some fringe leftist (except in California...), then teachers should be able to bring their kids to contemporary, mainstream restaurants without worrying about offending some fringe rightist who lives in the 1800's.
    You keep saying family restaurant now right after yousaid that you didn't buy into those who think the "family unit" is an arbitrary social construct that perpetuates patriarchal authoritarianism and that a family restaurant is offensive... Do you have dual personalities?

    Keep saying I am a fringe leftist all you like, you might even actually believe it too! Also, it is Conservatives that would dislike women dressing trashy and liberals that are for it, Conservatives that are for keeping children within the bounds of morality and Liberals that are for stretching morals to the breaking point, so I think that you have the political spectrum backwards...
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    let's see
    hooters has food and is open to the public
    like any other restaurant


    please describe why it is not
    Why it is not what?

    Woman also get abortions when it is not needed since it is legal, does that make it right or positive?
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I understand your point perfectly, actually. What you are doing is trying to have me answer irrelevant questions that you think will help prove your point.



    IF I remember correctly, you either stated or indicated that I was one of these people, "who think the "family unit" is an arbitrary social construct that perpetuates patriarchal authoritarianism". In fact, I think that you stated it directly....

    Also, I am against coaches taking students to Hooters which should not be classified as a "family restaurant" and I am Conservative... there goes your stereotype I guess.

    Can't fit everything into a nice little box...



    The fact that waitresses dress "sexy" is TOTALLY RELEVANT and Hooters IS NOT a mainstream restaurant and I'm not certain that it should be OK to take kids there either... the fact that they dress sexy is the entire point, one that you completely fail to acknowldge, instead opting to lrepeat that it is legal and anybody that disagrees should give up since they have no point when it is exactly the opposite...



    You keep saying family restaurant now right after yousaid that you didn't buy into those who think the "family unit" is an arbitrary social construct that perpetuates patriarchal authoritarianism and that a family restaurant is offensive... Do you have dual personalities?

    Keep saying I am a fringe leftist all you like, you might even actually believe it too! Also, it is Conservatives that would dislike women dressing trashy and liberals that are for it, Conservatives that are for keeping children within the bounds of morality and Liberals that are for stretching morals to the breaking point, so I think that you have the political spectrum backwards...
    Bodhi, I think you're very confused right now. I haven't made ANY comments about your personal beliefs, at all. Until we get this straight, this conversation cannot progress.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Hooters is not MacDonalds. Hooters is unlike almost every other restaurant/bar out there and THAT is the point. It is not comparable, hence your scenario is moot.
    You didn't answer my question.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    It's the name! If the joint was called "Uncle Bob's" and had sexy waitresses and was racy nobody would have come down on the woman.

    But the name is "Hooters" which implies a naughtiness not fit for kids.
    What about a restaurant named 'Well Hung', with only waiters in tight bicycle pants? How would that be?

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Why it is not what?

    Woman also get abortions when it is not needed since it is legal, does that make it right or positive?
    you are straying from your argument that hooters is not like any other restaurant
    my point is that it is a typical restaurant because it serves food and is open to the public
    you seem to think that it is somehow unique and underserving of being identified as a restaurant
    i want you to explain why your idea is so wrong

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Bodhi, I think you're very confused right now. I haven't made ANY comments about your personal beliefs, at all. Until we get this straight, this conversation cannot progress.
    Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
    yes... of which Hooters is not. My coaches took us out all the time and from what I recall, parents were always informed of that fact, but not of the particular restaurant, it was no big deal. Today, teachers have to give out consent froms for parents regarding every part of a trip, in most cases...

    Originally Posted by Ethereal
    Also, I would take offense if someone took my child to a "family restaurant". I do not recognize the tyrannical patriarchal social construct your refer to as the "family unit".
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    I'm just reading what you are writing, incorrect grammar and all (just playing about Grammar Nazi, but it should be "you") that is all... If you mean something else, then by all means, clarify your position.
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