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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Yes, exactly - it's the revealing skin tight form fitting high riding bust enhancing outfits that really set it appart from Applebees.
    And the food - the food at Hooters is aweful but then again, I am a master in the kitchen and don't like dining out for that fact. :P

    If they were just a restaurant with a quirky name then they'd just be wearing regular clothes - but they have this whole 'package' of perception that they maintain with their magazine and bikini contests, etc etc.
    They want the attention, they want to define theirselves that way, and that's what they get. . . why deny it? They are what they are.

    It's not horrible - but it's just inappropriate for an teacher/student mealtime location, kwim?

    It's just that simple to me.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes, exactly - it's the revealing skin tight form fitting high riding bust enhancing outfits that really set it appart from Applebees.
    And the food - the food at Hooters is aweful but then again, I am a master in the kitchen and don't like dining out for that fact. :P

    If they were just a restaurant with a quirky name then they'd just be wearing regular clothes - but they have this whole 'package' of perception that they maintain with their magazine and bikini contests, etc etc.
    They want the attention, they want to define theirselves that way, and that's what they get. . . why deny it? They are what they are.

    It's not horrible - but it's just inappropriate for an teacher/student mealtime location, kwim?

    It's just that simple to me.
    I'm not denying it...I just don't believe it is inappropriate. Our society has decided they are an "all age" establishment and therefore it is appropriate for all ages.
    There's nothing inappropriate for a teacher/student mealtime location.


    If parents are really THAT concerned about allowing their kids to eat at a restuarant that is open to the public and accessible to all ages....then they have bigger issues than the school should be required to accommodate. (AND again...it was ONE Parent.....who had an issue...out of all the parents involved. WHY should the school be required to cater to their whims and sensibilities?)

    Its just that simple to me.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm not denying it...I just don't believe it is inappropriate. Our society has decided they are an "all age" establishment and therefore it is appropriate for all ages.
    There's nothing inappropriate for a teacher/student mealtime location.
    As a parent - I disagree.
    My local beach is for all ages but I won't be taking my kids to the Marina during Spring Break.

    If parents are really THAT concerned about allowing their kids to eat at a restuarant that is open to the public and accessible to all ages....
    then they have bigger issues than the school should be required to accommodate.
    Absolutely - I have bigger issues than Hooters itself.

    (AND again...it was ONE Parent.....who had an issue...out of all the parents involved. WHY should the school be required to cater to their whims and sensibilities?)

    Its just that simple to me.
    I think that perhaps her suspension was a bit much because of the objection of *one* parent - I feel that it would have been acceptable only if more than one were in agreement on the issue.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm not denying it...I just don't believe it is inappropriate. Our society has decided they are an "all age" establishment and therefore it is appropriate for all ages.
    There's nothing inappropriate for a teacher/student mealtime location.


    If parents are really THAT concerned about allowing their kids to eat at a restuarant that is open to the public and accessible to all ages....then they have bigger issues than the school should be required to accommodate. (AND again...it was ONE Parent.....who had an issue...out of all the parents involved. WHY should the school be required to cater to their whims and sensibilities?)

    Its just that simple to me.

    Where are you getting that society has decided it's an "all age" establishment? Per the link earlier in this thread Hooters own website said it's not a family restaurant (which would be all ages) and that only 10% of the parties served include children.
    Only one parent complained but as others have pointed out there were probably others who didn't like it, either. I might not complain about it if it happened to a child of mine but I certainly wouldn't like it.

    I agree with the others in this thread who say the teacher showed poor judgement, but that her punishment was too harsh. It wasn't that big of a deal but I'd expect a teacher to know better.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So, a teacher - more specifically a coach - is given some discretion as to where they can take their kids?
    huh? Are you indicating that a teacher or coach that has a legal responsibility, in addition to a moral one regarding helping minors stay safe, should not have discretion? I can't seriously believe that I am hearing an adult indicate this...
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    A high school teacher took her male choir to "Hooters" restaurant after performing Christmas carols. As a result she was suspended.

    What do you think? Should this teacher have been suspended for this?

    Here is the article: Paradise Valley High School teacher who took students to Hooters in Phoenix is put on leave


    Personally, I think it is ridiculous. "Hooters" is not a strip club. It is a restaurant, not reallly different from Chili's or TGI Fridays and I doubt the teacher would have been suspended for that.

    The reality is....the parents of ONE boy complained.
    Which raises a bigger question....should the parents of one child dictate what is "appropriate" for everyone else?
    The only problem/issue I see with this is whether or not parents signed a permission form for the choir to attend dinner after their caroling. If not, then yes she should be suspended, but not because they went to Hooters to eat. Dumb.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    These kids were in High school. They could easily have gone to hooters on their own, and probably have in most cases.

    I know I did when I was in high school.
    yep... they sure could and probably have. High school kids also drive recklessly, have sex at age 11 and 12, eat too much junk food, chips and candy, MacDonalds, etc... too much soda and not enough water, watch extremely violent movies, talk disrespectfully to adults (that didn't use to happen nearly as much as now), etc etc etc...

    I draw lines.

    Many don't...

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    I suppose if where they were eating were such an issue as a parent myself, I would have asked WHERE they were going to eat before I gave my permission for my child to participate.

    IF a parent signed the permission slip and did NOT make this inquiry.. then who is the one lacking responsibility here?

    Totally different story if there were no permission slips issued for this and/or the dining place were changed from what was originally given.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    My high school football coach used to take us to hooters!! He thought hooters was like a 5 star restaurant!! So my answer would be absolutely no!! Though I do wish my high school football coach had been suspended for other reasons, notably because he was a completely **** coach.
    hmm, can't argue about 5 stars but there is always great up front presentations and that is the bottom line
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Also, I would take offense if someone took my child to a "family restaurant". I do not recognize the tyrannical patriarchal social construct your refer to as the "family unit".
    A family restaurant is friendly towards kids. That is what the term means, don't try and twist it. It can also mean casual dining or fixed prices or how seating plan is laid out too... As to the rest of that pure and utter crap regarding what I refer as a "family unit"? Don't make me laugh with that retarded ad hominem
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