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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no way would we expect to see young women in such revealing outfits on a high school campus

    no way that would ever be possible
    That doesn't look like a high school campus...or a high schooler for that matter.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Yes or No: Do you think it is appropriate for a high school teacher to dress as you have shown above here while teaching class?
    When I went to school I often wished I had a high school teacher who could pull that outfit off.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Yes or No: Do you think it is appropriate for a high school teacher to dress as you have shown above here while teaching class?

    If you say Yes, I don't believe you. If you say No, then you are admitting that different types of clothing have different contexts.

    As to your photo being a high school context, I don't really know. In any case, she is a cheerleader doing cheerleading stuff at a football game. That is the context of her attire. It is appropriate for her context, more or less. It is quite different than having a big busted woman in a tight t-shirt leaning over your face to deliver your hot wings and clearing your plate away when you are finished.

    What is so hard about this?
    I understand and agree to some extent with what you are saying about context. Where we may disagree is that I don't believe there is anything inappropriate with the context in which the waitresses at Hooters are dressed. The outfits are not THAT revealing.
    I enjoy going to Hooters because I think the atmosphere is fun. I don't go there to Gawk at the women or lust over them. I go there because I enjoy the laid back atmosphere, I enjoy the friendly and fun personality that the wait staff portray...and I enjoy the food. I would have no problem taking my family there.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    That doesn't look like a high school campus...or a high schooler for that matter.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    The one in Charlotte, NC? hmmm Yeah I can see that.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    A high school teacher took her male choir to "Hooters" restaurant after performing Christmas carols. As a result she was suspended.

    What do you think? Should this teacher have been suspended for this?

    Here is the article: Paradise Valley High School teacher who took students to Hooters in Phoenix is put on leave


    Personally, I think it is ridiculous. "Hooters" is not a strip club. It is a restaurant, not reallly different from Chili's or TGI Fridays and I doubt the teacher would have been suspended for that.

    The reality is....the parents of ONE boy complained.
    Which raises a bigger question....should the parents of one child dictate what is "appropriate" for everyone else?
    True, it's a restaurant centered around boobs and butts - it's like soft porn VS fetish. . . . not even in the same boat let alone the same river.

    However - I'd be royally pissed, too, if my kids were taken by a teacher to such a place and her head would roll straight into my lap.

    I don't believe it's a teacher's place to be the one to expose a child to anything that might be questionable to anyone - brings her moral compass into check. You just don't go and take someone else's kids to a hooter's restaurant to look at TnA. That's not a supervising adult's job.

    If the guys were just by themselves and went - then no harm no foul - if they wanted to go and were the ones to come up with the idea nad approached her over it, again, no harm no foul. . . But for the teacher to think that it was a good idea and to take the guys not considering the parent's issue, eh - she needs to keep herself in check.

    Teachers are not friends and shouldn't encroach on that wrelm.

    Nothing particularly wrong with Hooters - it's just an issue of Teacher ethics and in this day and age we don't need more muddling of the lines.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I understand and agree to some extent with what you are saying about context. Where we may disagree is that I don't believe there is anything inappropriate with the context in which the waitresses at Hooters are dressed. The outfits are not THAT revealing.
    I enjoy going to Hooters because I think the atmosphere is fun. I don't go there to Gawk at the women or lust over them. I go there because I enjoy the laid back atmosphere, I enjoy the friendly and fun personality that the wait staff portray...and I enjoy the food. I would have no problem taking my family there.
    As I have stated previously, I wouldn't have a problem with taking a group of high school boys there, either, except for one thing: Schools must be sensitive to community standards, whether I personally agree with them or not. I am sure there was more than one parent who felt this way. I am sure of this, not because I feel this way, but because I know many parents who would, and I respect their thinking on the matter, even though I don't agree.

    As for your reasons for going there, I am fairly certain that you are in the minority among men.

    It wasn't like there weren't other places to go.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    True, it's a restaurant centered around boobs and butts - it's like soft porn VS fetish. . . . not even in the same boat let alone the same river.

    However - I'd be royally pissed, too, if my kids were taken by a teacher to such a place and her head would roll straight into my lap.

    I don't believe it's a teacher's place to be the one to expose a child to anything that might be questionable to anyone - brings her moral compass into check. You just don't go and take someone else's kids to a hooter's restaurant to look at TnA. That's not a supervising adult's job.

    If the guys were just by themselves and went - then no harm no foul - if they wanted to go and were the ones to come up with the idea nad approached her over it, again, no harm no foul. . . But for the teacher to think that it was a good idea and to take the guys not considering the parent's issue, eh - she needs to keep herself in check.

    Teachers are not friends and shouldn't encroach on that wrelm.

    Nothing particularly wrong with Hooters - it's just an issue of Teacher ethics and in this day and age we don't need more muddling of the lines.
    There is so much wrong with your post...I don't even know where to start.

    First of all...Most people don't go to Hooters to look at "T and A". If that is what people wanted...they could go to a strip club to see a lot more and get a free buffet while they were at it.

    Second....so it would be completely fine with you for the kids to go on their own...yet, if the teacher goes....all of a sudden your pants get all cinched up.

    Third....there is no "moral compass" to check. Seriously....I cannot understand the mindset of those who are all worked up over this. This is an all age restaurant....not a 21 and over club....and we are talking high school kids, not eight year olds.

    I have to believe that the vast majority of the people complaining, have no clue what a Hooters restaurant is....
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There is so much wrong with your post...I don't even know where to start.

    First of all...Most people don't go to Hooters to look at "T and A". If that is what people wanted...they could go to a strip club to see a lot more and get a free buffet while they were at it.

    Yeah, right - and everyone reads playboy just for the stellar articles. MM HMM. A lot of people go there because htey like the women and the overall atmosphere - in the same way French Maids are a booming business.
    People like to look at it while they eat in a relaxed and unsexually charged atmosphere - I think people are stupid when they claim otherwise.

    When there are rules and regulations regarding the attire and overall physical appearance of the hoppers then that *does* play a part in why (not all, sure) but most go there.

    Second....so it would be completely fine with you for the kids to go on their own...yet, if the teacher goes....all of a sudden your pants get all cinched up.
    Yeah, there's a strongly defined line of "teacher / student" relationship VS "friend / friend" or "parent / child" relationship.
    I don't find it acceptable for teachers to cross that line.

    I'd be just as bothered if my kid's teacher showed up at their summer Bday party at the beach in a bikini. . . there for the waves, but you have to mind whose watching.

    I'm surprised most people don't see it that way.

    Third....there is no "moral compass" to check. Seriously....I cannot understand the mindset of those who are all worked up over this. This is an all age restaurant....not a 21 and over club....and we are talking high school kids, not eight year olds.
    Sure there is - a teacher is willing to cross a line that she has no right to cross. I consider that a serious issue. . . what other lines is the teacher crossing and why are they being crossed?
    It's just like President Obama smooching Hilary Clinton on the lips - WTF? There's a line -> _____ that says 'Do not cross me.'

    Whether someone doesn't mind or not doesn't matter - the lines are there and every teacher is educated as to what those are. They have to take classes and attend meetings that address sexual harassment and what is an appropriate or inappropriate relationship to have with a student.

    Her head rolled a bit - she's an idiot if she didn't see a complaint coming.

    I have to believe that the vast majority of the people complaining, have no clue what a Hooters restaurant is....
    I've been to Hooters - the food is good - and the waitresses are all impecably pretty and well kept . . . hardly a "traditional" restaurant vibe and atmosphere. . . their apearance and attire are an intricate part of "what" they are.

    Sure -they're not raunchy or slutty, but inappropriate for a teacher to take her students to (male or female).
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    Yeah, right - and everyone reads playboy just for the stellar articles. MM HMM. A lot of people go there because htey like the women and the overall atmosphere - in the same way French Maids are a booming business.
    People like to look at it while they eat in a relaxed and unsexually charged atmosphere - I think people are stupid when they claim otherwise.

    When there are rules and regulations regarding the attire and overall physical appearance of the hoppers then that *does* play a part in why (not all, sure) but most go there.



    Yeah, there's a strongly defined line of "teacher / student" relationship VS "friend / friend" or "parent / child" relationship.
    I don't find it acceptable for teachers to cross that line.

    I'd be just as bothered if my kid's teacher showed up at their summer Bday party at the beach in a bikini. . . there for the waves, but you have to mind whose watching.

    I'm surprised most people don't see it that way.



    Sure there is - a teacher is willing to cross a line that she has no right to cross. I consider that a serious issue. . . what other lines is the teacher crossing and why are they being crossed?
    It's just like President Obama smooching Hilary Clinton on the lips - WTF? There's a line -> _____ that says 'Do not cross me.'

    Whether someone doesn't mind or not doesn't matter - the lines are there and every teacher is educated as to what those are. They have to take classes and attend meetings that address sexual harassment and what is an appropriate or inappropriate relationship to have with a student.

    Her head rolled a bit - she's an idiot if she didn't see a complaint coming.



    I've been to Hooters - the food is good - and the waitresses are all impecably pretty and well kept . . . hardly a "traditional" restaurant vibe and atmosphere. . . their apearance and attire are an intricate part of "what" they are.

    Sure -they're not raunchy or slutty, but inappropriate for a teacher to take her students to (male or female).

    I understand your points and have to give you props for at least supporting your points with more than the selective outrage that most have been posting over the last couple of days.

    However, I do disagree. You could make the same argument about being a "friend" with the teacher going with the students to ANY restaurant. If you really want a hard and fast line then you would never have the teacher dining with the kids.
    THAT not being realistic...I really cannot see how a teacher eating with kids at Applebees or Hooters is that much different.
    Its not as if the Hooter waitresses are doing pole dances and strip teases.
    If they were...that might be a different story...
    The only thing that REALLY differentiates a Hooters from an Applebees is the uniform...and all things being equal...the Hooters uniform is not that revealing.
    I would say a PG-13 at Best.
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