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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Ted Kennedy wanted to start his own chain of Hooters restaurants.....Unfortunately he didn't live long enough to realise his dream.


    now thats funny, i don't care who you are!!

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    now thats funny, i don't care who you are!!
    I doubt Ted Kennedy thinks it's funny.


    CAUSE HE'S DEAD!





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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    sure, the teacher could have taken them somewhere else...odds are that there might have been a couple of attractive women at this restaurant as well....is the teacher still guilty in your opinion of 'poor judgement' if she fed these kids in that restaurant as well??
    Would those other places explicitly be choosing and dressing their waitresses to take advantage of female sex appeal?

    I mean, it is a simple matter of where the line gets crossed. For some, the line is at Hooters. For others, They wouldn't care about Hooters as it is now, but would care if Hooters did wet Tshirt displays. Still others wouldn't care about that, but would care if the waitresses only wore little pasties over their aereolae. Still more others (though getting much fewer) wouldn't care about this, but would care about topless. And so on.

    There is a difference between Hooters and Perkins. You may not feel the difference matters, but it is there.

    As I said earlier, I think Hooters is harmless, and the teacher obviously thought the same. However, I would never have chosen what this teacher chose. My judgement would have told me that the decision would be controversial, and my job as a teacher would be to respect parental prerogatives and maintain good relations with all parents unless such relations are trumped by academic considerations.

    This wasn't one of those occasions.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    There is a difference between Hooters and Perkins. You may not feel the difference matters, but it is there.
    Hooters is that nice hot chick who isn't quite slutty, but she runs with it.

    Perkins is that annoyingly ultra-conservative chick who wears Amish-esque dresses and scoffs at dirty jokes or foul language.

    They can both cook a good meal, but only one of them is going to deliver the total package.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Would those other places explicitly be choosing and dressing their waitresses to take advantage of female sex appeal?

    I mean, it is a simple matter of where the line gets crossed. For some, the line is at Hooters. For others, They wouldn't care about Hooters as it is now, but would care if Hooters did wet Tshirt displays. Still others wouldn't care about that, but would care if the waitresses only wore little pasties over their aereolae. Still more others (though getting much fewer) wouldn't care about this, but would care about topless. And so on.

    There is a difference between Hooters and Perkins. You may not feel the difference matters, but it is there.

    As I said earlier, I think Hooters is harmless, and the teacher obviously thought the same. However, I would never have chosen what this teacher chose. My judgement would have told me that the decision would be controversial, and my job as a teacher would be to respect parental prerogatives and maintain good relations with all parents unless such relations are trumped by academic considerations.

    This wasn't one of those occasions.
    i worked in restaurants as a dishwasher years ago, in my early twenties, and we had hostesses/waitresses that would wear dresses similar to what jennifer lopez wore a awhile back at that awards ceremony(the green one that showed damn near everything)...they made good use of the two sided tape, showing enough , but not being illegal or something that would get them fired...if this teacher took these kids to this particular restaurant, and this hostess was assigned to them, is it still poor judgement to eat there?

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I wonder, there was talk of the kids being asked their opinion. And while I know the teacher is the "responsible adult" if the kids wanted to go then good on them. It's not like the teacher forced them to go to Hooters.
    This is the reason that I oppose the suspension. Teacher offered them a choice and they chose an establishment that it was entirely legal for them to patronize. I might be disappointed if my son chose to go there, and I might wish that the teacher had shown stronger moral leadership, but there's simply nothing I can point to that says the teacher was irresponsible or careless or even that she set a poor example for the students.

    She offered a group of young men and women a choice that was well within community standards. They made a choice that I morally disapprove of, but that's no different than the millions of men and women that patronize Hooter's on a yearly basis.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Hooters is that nice hot chick who isn't quite slutty, but she runs with it.

    Perkins is that annoyingly ultra-conservative chick who wears Amish-esque dresses and scoffs at dirty jokes or foul language.

    They can both cook a good meal, but only one of them is going to deliver the total package.
    I could get laid way easier by a Perkins waitress than a Hooters waitress.
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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what exactly is 'indecent' about the way they are dressed? doesnt the uniform cover all the neccessary parts?
    There is more to proper public appearance than covering "all the necessary parts".

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I'm sorry, allow me to dumb down my post since it seems to have slipped past you:

    The women who apply, of their own free will, to Hooters are objectifying themselves, of their own free will, when agreeing to work there. Thus, Hot women who get these jobs at Hooters enrage ugly women who do not work at Hooters and who could not get work at Hooters, and they then complain that Hooters objectifies women.

    capice?
    Let me dumb down my reply for you.

    Whether women choose to allow themselves to be sexually objectified is an independent decision (which nobody in this thread has disputed nor impinged) on their part and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a decision by a high school teacher about WHERE to take her underage charges for a meal. I am not an ugly woman, I am a father who has raised 3 great kids with the help of their mother, and I am not in favor of the school failing to provide a wholesome environment for our kids.

    The school made the appropriate decision to suspend the teacher, who should not have even offered it as a choice to the kids. Hooters sexually objectifies women (beside charging above average prices for below average burgers!), and schools should not teach by example of patronizing the place that it is ok.


    I wonder, there was talk of the kids being asked their opinion. And while I know the teacher is the "responsible adult" if the kids wanted to go then good on them. It's not like the teacher forced them to go to Hooters.
    Irrelevant. The teacher should not have offered them a choice of an establishment with "sex appeal" as its primary "concept".

    The school administration did the right thing. Thank god they have some responsible adults running that system.

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    Re: Hooters - should this teacher be suspended for this?

    Don't agree with your conclusion, but I applaud everything leading up to it.

    edit: Except the unnecessary cheap shot at the beginning.

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