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  • Christmas

    51 80.95%
  • Hannukah

    9 14.29%
  • Kwanzaa

    3 4.76%
  • Yule/Winter Solstice/Modranect

    8 12.70%
  • Saturnalia

    4 6.35%
  • Black Friday

    5 7.94%
  • Eid

    2 3.17%
  • Diwali

    3 4.76%
  • Festivus

    10 15.87%
  • Holiday (Pastafarian)

    6 9.52%
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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    My Christmas:

    Wake up as we please. Mother is drunk, father is tense with anguish, and brother is off, God knows where!

    Perhaps some presents under the tree, but no one is sure where they came from or who they're for. A tentative and palpable awkwardness permeates the air, culminating in a volcanic eruption of raw emotion and unrestrained vitriol.

    Shouting and violent sobbing; venomous insults and bitter reprisals; an empty whiskey glass, shattering in the fireplace...

    (((((( Ethereal .... ))))))

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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    My Christmas:

    Wake up as we please. Mother is drunk, father is tense with anguish, and brother is off, God knows where!

    Perhaps some presents under the tree, but no one is sure where they came from or who they're for. A tentative and palpable awkwardness permeates the air, culminating in a volcanic eruption of raw emotion and unrestrained vitriol.

    Shouting and violent sobbing; venomous insults and bitter reprisals; an empty whiskey glass, shattering in the fireplace...
    Whoa.........tough room! Hope its better this year!
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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    I'm just kidding. My Christmas is just your typical Christmas. We used to go to midnight mass, but the family isn't really religious anymore; we just open presents and have breakfast. Pretty boring, actually! But I still love Christmas time; just wish I could see more of my extended family, like when I was a kid; I miss my grandparents most of all.
    Last edited by Ethereal; 12-17-09 at 08:46 PM.

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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    I celebrate nothing. My life is one long period of mourning.
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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    I celebrate on Mithras' birthday for the sake of convention and family, although the celebration is usually referred to by its adopted name of "Christmas"

    On a tangent.. If you look at the word Christmas you will see that Mithras is in there as well (albeit a tad mixed up), and if you took "Christ" out of Christmas, you would also remove most of Mithras as well .
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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Rivrrat called her grandfather papaw, I bet it sounds similar. Did you read her fabulous toast to her recently deceased papaw in the tavern?
    No I didn't and we speak often because we play WOW together. She never told me...

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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No I didn't and we speak often because we play WOW together. She never told me...

    Check it out - http://www.debatepolitics.com/toast/...post1058427393


    Awesome toast ...

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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I grew up Catholic. Not a bad religion, really.
    I actually liked it. It seems more balanced than fundamentalist evangelicalism. Fundamentalism seems to be about making everything taboo. There is no allowance for humanity. You aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to dance, you aren't supposed to enjoy your body at all....and don't even get me started on sex.



    My daughter's boyfriend's dad passed away in October, and we went to his (Catholic) funeral. There was an open bar, and it was such a celebration of his life. So different from how I grew up.

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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I actually liked it. It seems more balanced than fundamentalist evangelicalism. Fundamentalism seems to be about making everything taboo. There is no allowance for humanity. You aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to dance, you aren't supposed to enjoy your body at all....and don't even get me started on sex.



    My daughter's boyfriend's dad passed away in October, and we went to his (Catholic) funeral. There was an open bar, and it was such a celebration of his life. So different from how I grew up.
    Catholicism can be a very positive influence on families and communities if it's grounded in realism.

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    Re: What winter holiday do you celebrate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I actually liked it. It seems more balanced than fundamentalist evangelicalism. Fundamentalism seems to be about making everything taboo. There is no allowance for humanity. You aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to dance, you aren't supposed to enjoy your body at all....and don't even get me started on sex.



    My daughter's boyfriend's dad passed away in October, and we went to his (Catholic) funeral. There was an open bar, and it was such a celebration of his life. So different from how I grew up.
    The funny thing about fundamentalism, is that when fundamentalists sometimes snap out of it, they go on thinking that religion is mostly fundamentalist, just like they were. So they learn to disbelieve in what they believed before, without realizing that the nature of religious experience could be quite different than the way they once understood it. The literalist, narrow, fundamentalist understanding of religion persists. It very rarely evolves.

    The funny thing about this is that it often results in bitterness. The believer-turned-non-believer becomes bitter. Now that they've "seen the light" they must now lash out at their former religion and those that still practice it. They have to have a negative view towards it. This is natural, but it is also negative. When we dump something we tend to dislike it, this is how we move on.

    Funny enough, the bible actually has a lot to say about bitterness.
    Prov. 14:10
    Jer. 2:19
    James 3:14
    Job. 9:17-18
    Job. 21:25
    Job 7:11, 10:1
    Heb 12:15

    The bible is interesting that way. It's full of clues as to how to understand our inner nature. But the bitter, former-fundamentalist already has the answers. They completely overlooked these passages when assessing the "truth" in scripture. Instead, they'll take the misunderstood "sword" passage out of context, and in English, and say, "see?" ... as if an anecdote, or a couple of anecdotes would disprove anything else, anyway.

    It's all very unfortunate.
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