View Poll Results: Which of the below services should be privately run?

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  • Police

    4 15.38%
  • Firefighters

    9 34.62%
  • Emergency Response

    11 42.31%
  • Health Care

    23 88.46%
  • Unemployment

    13 50.00%
  • Welfare

    13 50.00%
  • Education (Public schooling)

    17 65.38%
  • Transportation (Trains, buses, etc.)

    23 88.46%
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Thread: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    With regards to my vote for Education and Transportation:

    Private education works, often on par or better than Public education systems, but it should by no means be exclusive. Everyone deserves at least a enough education to be a productive citizen.

    Transportation is another one split for me, Public Transit within cities or largely traveled routes should be 50/50, just for the sake of those who want to either travel cheap or those who want to travel fast/fancy. Larger scale transportation like planes, some train lines, long distance busing, etc. should be private because these industries are, most importantly, not necessities or rights (You don't have the right to affordable interstate travel ) and secondly it's one less large industry that the government would have to create a bureaucracy for.

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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    With the last hit to the Health care reform and many vocally against government run services I was wondering what other services should the government not be providing and should be left to the private industry to create and provide to citizens?
    None of the above, which is why getting rid of the public option for health care is bullsh*t.


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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    Police
    Absolutely not. There is no way the private sector can do this without undermining the government's authority.

    Firefighters
    No. It would be economically inefficient, morally repulsive, and dangerous to "innocent" people for fires to be allowed to spread if someone didn't pay their bill to the firefighting corporation.

    Emergency Response
    No. Same reason as firefighting.

    Health Care
    This should be publicly funded, at least for people who can't afford it. As for who actually RUNS health care...I think it should be a mix of public, private, and non-profit institutions.

    Unemployment
    Not sure what you mean...unemployment insurance? I think the most economically efficient thing to do would be for the government to provide unemployment insurance. The length and amount you'd receive would depend on your wealth and previous income, and the status of the overall economy.

    Welfare
    This is kind of broad. Nearly all of these other things could be lumped under the "welfare" heading. How are you distinguishing this from unemployment insurance specifically?

    Education (Public schooling)
    My thoughts on education are similar to my thoughts on health care. The government should fund it, but there should be a mix of public/private/nonprofit institutions that actually RUN it. I'd like to see the United States move toward a voucher system.

    Transportation (Trains, buses, etc.)
    Definitely should be government-run. The private sector just cannot do this efficiently. At all.
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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Absolutely not. There is no way the private sector can do this without undermining the government's authority.
    Agree'd, except maybe some private security firms? Not all of them are evil.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No. It would be economically inefficient, morally repulsive, and dangerous to "innocent" people for fires to be allowed to spread if someone didn't pay their bill to the firefighting corporation.
    Agree'd. This would scare the **** out of me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No. Same reason as firefighting.
    Agree'd

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This should be publicly funded, at least for people who can't afford it. As for who actually RUNS health care...I think it should be a mix of public, private, and non-profit institutions.
    Well said.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Not sure what you mean...unemployment insurance? I think the most economically efficient thing to do would be for the government to provide unemployment insurance. The length and amount you'd receive would depend on your wealth and previous income, and the status of the overall economy.
    It might serve to be a little boost to private companies to keep their employees employed if they also had to pay into an unemployment fund but also, for the most part, agree'd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This is kind of broad. Nearly all of these other things could be lumped under the "welfare" heading. How are you distinguishing this from unemployment insurance specifically?
    I'd prefer if we didn't have a Nanny State, but still aid to those who TRULY need it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    My thoughts on education are similar to my thoughts on health care. The government should fund it, but there should be a mix of public/private/nonprofit institutions that actually RUN it. I'd like to see the United States move toward a voucher system.
    Agreedopotamus

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Definitely should be government-run. The private sector just cannot do this efficiently. At all.
    Eh...they both kind of suck at it, but take a look at my response and tell me what you think of that idea. I think it needs more private than public, but definitely not 100% private.

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    Re: Government run vs Privately run services.

    All of those listed should be government run.
    This does not mean that the government does a better job.
    Both have their problems.
    As far as health care goes, we need a system very similar to the more advanced nations in the world. Its high time we joined them.
    And if this is socialistic, then, so be it. Private health care is fine for our 20% wealthy; for most of us, its a government run program, or nothing.
    Health care is now a right; it was a luxury during the olden days, but things change.

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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Eh...they both kind of suck at it, but take a look at my response and tell me what you think of that idea. I think it needs more private than public, but definitely not 100% private.
    You seem to be talking more about the actual mode of transportation, whereas I was referring mainly to the infrastructure. By all means, let's keep the production/operation of buses, trains, and planes private wherever it's commercially viable. But there is simply no way the private sector has the incentive to build a sufficient network of roads, rail, airports, or metro stations.
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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    All of the above. Although they should all be managed within the scope of government.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    All of the above. Although they should all be managed within the scope of government.
    In that case, let's privatize the entire political system. We can't have a nation where politics are controlled by the government.

    That's un-American.

    EDIT: Look at this, clear proof that the government is also controlling time. Time should be privatized.

    Proof of Federal Control of Time
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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You seem to be talking more about the actual mode of transportation, whereas I was referring mainly to the infrastructure. By all means, let's keep the production/operation of buses, trains, and planes private wherever it's commercially viable. But there is simply no way the private sector has the incentive to build a sufficient network of roads, rail, airports, or metro stations.
    OHHH infrastructure, definitely Government. I don't want 'imminent domain' (right term?) given to any private firm...

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    Re: Goverment run vs Privately run services.

    Police: Are not federal run. They are state run. With some federal regulation.

    Firefighters: Again, not federally run, they are state run or union or voluntary run. Again with some federal regulation.

    Health care (EMT's): Again, not federally run, they are state run (where applicable). Again with some federal regulation.

    Unemployment: I'm assuming that you are talking about unemployment checks? I personally think that such things should only be given out if something happens to the company that they had worked with. Like a natural disaster. Beyond that the government should stay out of it. If you are talking about it helping people get jobs...well I think that it should be done privately.

    Welfare: They made the biggest mistake when this was formed. They made it to where people could live off of it indefinately. There is nothing about it that promotes getting the person back into a job. Beyond that I think about it the same as I do unemployment.

    Education: I am torn on this one. On one hand I think that they should leave it up to the states in what should be taught. On the other hand I understand why they do regulate it. Before the Civil War and during Segregation taught us those reasons.

    Transportation (Trains, buses, etc.): The Federal government does need to make sure that these are done right as trains and airplanes and roads (ie buses) have a major effect on environment. There is also the matter of national security were these things are concerned. 9/11 is the biggest example possible for airplane regulation and national security.
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