View Poll Results: How do you grade Obama's presidency so far

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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    My vote averages yours to a "C".....
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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Yes but, even though I voted for him, even though he is a badass, even though he is very intelligent, the cons outweigh the pros.

    I think a lot of it comes from people who expected too much out of Obama, and then Obama just started to roll with it. Then he started believing that he could actually deliver on those promises. So far he has not, so the things he has not yet done and the negative things he as already done outweigh the good things he has done.
    I think PBO saw a mandate to go crazy with Leftist BS policies, when no mandate existed. The people are making that very clear.
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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    I would grade him lower than a B+. I would say probably more around a B-/C+.

    War in Iraq/Afgahnistan - D (We need to move quicker to get out of Iraq where we had no business of being in the first place. I also not thrilled about his plan to send more troops into Afghanistan
    Economy - C+ (He has done well to stabablize the economy which was freefalling under Bush. Productivity is up and we are seeing signs of economic growth. Unemployment remains high however).
    Foreign Policy - A (The best thing that Obama has done so far is to reverse the immoral and horrendous practices of the prior administration, rebuild our standing in the world community and with our allies)
    Domestic Agenda - B I think Obama has been smart to not really focus a whole lot on a domestic agenda when he already has too much on his plate. I am hoping to see an end to DADT in the near future though.
    Healthcare - D- Obama is wimping out. We need real healthcare reform or nothing. Obama needs to get involved and kick some ass and bring the Democrats in line to do what they were elected to do. Obama is not doing enough to prevent the Democrats from acting like Republicans.
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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    'D'

    He continues to "vote present" at every opportunity. He has not insisted on prosecuting the black pather with a club at Philly polls. He is all for setting ACORN get away with whatever crimes they can and he'll cover them with democrat federal judges and the justice department. He has abused the whistle blower laws by removing an Inspector General investigator. He has not taken responsibility for any action taken by his administration or its proxies. He has attacked all opponents through proxies. He has refused to hear all sides of arguments and has attempted to shut down any interference with his programs. He says "I" every five seconds while doing this. He is decidedly uninformed about almost everything and makes you wonder who is actually in charge. Terrorist activity is up in the past year over 10%. We have had the first terrorist attack on US soil since 2001. He claims to give a good speech but actually is just an accomplished reader. He is physically adapted to watching tennis matches.

    But I might be a little biased by the facts.
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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    do you have some proof that the "international community" is laughing at us? really, remember the DOH! headline when bush was elected a second time? THAT was the international community laughing at us.
    Iran and N. Korea are increasingly becomming dangerous, international polling is even worse towards the U.S. than under the Bush or Clinton administrations, etc. I wouldn't call that an international diplomacy win......not that I exactly care about what the international community thinks about U.S. specific issues, but since it seems to be a media focus then it's still a failure.

    obama took over 2 wars
    Not exactly true, in the second term of the Bush administration Afghanistan became a NATO mission, which is why it became a mess, and I wouldn't exactly call the U.S. end of war policy decision making from the Obama end a win.
    and a recession
    Which started to boil around '07, which was controlled by? hint, the president does not issue monitary policy, he only suggests or signs ecomomic bills
    ........and 8 years of policy failure.
    Sorry, I don't deal in blanket statements, you need to qualify what you think is a "policy failure" and why.
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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    I give him a C, because he's a damn politician. Of course, that's exactly how I expected him to perform (though I Hoped for Change, thinking Yes He Can maybe get a B).

    He's still a homophobe, still a warmonger, still in the pocket of the incredibly influential banking sector (think bailout), has done nothing to improve the security of the nation here at home and is letting this joke of a healthcare bill be butchered by special interest groups.

    However, he has given proper attention to the National Academy of Science and NASA, and is doing a bit to promote the importance of science in education. There are other reasons I point to in his favor, but I'm getting bored of my own post.

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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    I gave him a C. It's not clear that he's made anything worse, really, but lord he sure he hasn't made a whole lot better. Bringing back stem cell research and lifting bans on aide that go to family planning including abortion are pretty much the only two policies where he seems to have been proactive. It's too early to tell what the long term (or hell, even short term) effects of his foreign policy changes will be.

    It's truly cringe-worthy watching Wall Street walk all over him.
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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    I'd give him about a c average, but that is me being nice. So far, he has not impressed me that much.

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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    I give him a D. Lets HOPE he dosn't CHANGE us from a capitalist to a socialist country before he completes his one and only term as president.
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    Re: Grade Obama so far!

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Iran and N. Korea are increasingly becomming dangerous, international polling is even worse towards the U.S. than under the Bush or Clinton administrations, etc. I wouldn't call that an international diplomacy win......not that I exactly care about what the international community thinks about U.S. specific issues, but since it seems to be a media focus then it's still a failure.
    You're assigning a decade long trend in American popularity to what's happened in less than one year? That's hilarious. Obama is wildly popular overseas, whether or not that's warranted is another matter.

    Aside from that, the international cancers that are the N Korean and Iranian governments date back 30+ years, but the recent diplomatic failures concerning international nuclear policy are directly attributable to Bush Administration "sanction/guns only" policies.

    Not exactly true, in the second term of the Bush administration Afghanistan became a NATO mission, which is why it became a mess,
    So the Bush Administration's decision to hand over significant control to international forces is Obama's fault? How does that make sense? Further, how did Obama not inherit two wars? At his inauguration there were 55,000 international troops in Afghanistan. Little more than 34,000 (63%) were American troops. Along with thousands of American civilians coordinating with the effort, how can you possibly argue that he did not inherit this war?

    and I wouldn't exactly call the U.S. end of war policy decision making from the Obama end a win.
    As opposed to what, an endless war policy?

    Which started to boil around '07, which was controlled by? hint, the president does not issue monitary policy, he only suggests or signs ecomomic bills Sorry, I don't deal in blanket statements, you need to qualify what you think is a "policy failure" and why.
    Right, the president has no influence on monetary policy. The economic collapse was a decade in the making, starting with the Commodities Reform Act of 2000, passed by a Republican congress, signed by a Democrat president. The blame is bipartisan and equally applied across socio-economic borders. There's no need for partisanship on this issue.

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