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A test question about the Democratic Party

The Domocrats appear to have lost a strong hold on which of the following group(s)?

  • Catholics

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Southerners

    Votes: 17 56.7%

  • Union Members

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Blacks

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • #1, #2 and #3

    Votes: 8 26.7%
  • Total voters
    30
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This is from a study guide from my final exam - but I thought it would be interesting to see what everyone thinks.
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The only group that is applicable is Southerners....but that has been for decades...not just something recent.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
This is from a study guide from my final exam - but I thought it would be interesting to see what everyone thinks.
(the answer is #5)
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....Not sure how Democrats could have lost any real ground with blacks. It is the same false claim over and over again. How the Republicans are 'gaining' minorities. Reality is Republicans are fighting to keep whatever minority vote they still have and that is the way it has been since their switch in the 60s that targeted formerly Democrat havens in the South. Tell your teacher his study guide is wrong and he needs to pick up a book on race relations & politics in America. Even with Union members. Not sure how much ground they could have lost. Most union enclaves are still heavily Democrat. The rust belt still votes mostly Democrat. So not sure how they could have 'lost ground' And considering most Catholics in this country live in California or New England(both heavily Democrat) as opposed to the primarily Baptist south - I'm still not sure how they 'lost ground'.
 
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Hatuey said:
....Not sure how Democrats could have lost any real ground with blacks. It is the same false claim over and over again. How the Republicans are 'gaining' minorities. Reality is Republicans are fighting to keep whatever minority vote they still have and that is the way it has been since their switch in the 60s that targeted formerly Democrat havens in the South. Tell your teacher his study guide is wrong and he needs to pick up a book on race relations & politics in America.
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(the answer is #5)
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The study guide doesnt claim that the Dems have lost ground with blacks.
 
I was going to say #1, until I slowed down and read all the answers. I wasn't actually sure about union members, but I think that's true. The Dems have definitely lost ground with both Catholics and Southerners though, as long as the period of time you're talking about is decades (40+ years, at least).

The started losing Catholics after Roe v. Wade; Southerners after the Civil Rights Act, and I think (?) union members after Reagan.


I said #5 - which is answers #1, #2, and #3.
 
disneydude said:
The only group that is applicable is Southerners....but that has been for decades...not just something recent.
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I would say that strict believing Catholics and Southerners should be the only answer, but that choice wasn't given. Yet, I know some farmers where I live, who think like I do but always vote Democrat because their parents and grandparents were all Democrats. A lot has to do with all the help Democrats have been known to extend to farmers.
 
Hatuey said:
....Not sure how Democrats could have lost any real ground with blacks. It is the same false claim over and over again. How the Republicans are 'gaining' minorities. Reality is Republicans are fighting to keep whatever minority vote they still have and that is the way it has been since their switch in the 60s that targeted formerly Democrat havens in the South. Tell your teacher his study guide is wrong and he needs to pick up a book on race relations & politics in America. Even with Union members. Not sure how much ground they could have lost. Most union enclaves are still heavily Democrat. The rust belt still votes mostly Democrat. So not sure how they could have 'lost ground' And considering most Catholics in this country live in California or New England(both heavily Democrat) as opposed to the primarily Baptist south - I'm still not sure how they 'lost ground'.
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Republicans will gain that support when minorities become better educated, but there is the double-edged sword. The dems talk of equal opportunities for black students, but in truth, they would prefer they stay dummed down so they will continue to vote Democrat.
 
bicycleman said:
Republicans will gain that support when minorities become better educated, but there is the double-edged sword. The dems talk of equal opportunities for black students, but in truth, they would prefer they stay dummed down so they will continue to vote Democrat.
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Education has nothing to do with it. It has to do with historical trends. Republicans decided to target poor and disgruntled southern whites after the 1960s civil rights act. It's called the Southern strategy. Why don't you pick up a book on it? It'll help you out tons.
 
Hatuey said:
Education has nothing to do with it. It has to do with historical trends. Republicans decided to target poor and disgruntled southern whites after the 1960s civil rights act. It's called the Southern strategy. Why don't you pick up a book on it? It'll help you out tons.
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You mean he should get educated?
 
Hatuey said:
Education has nothing to do with it. It has to do with historical trends. Republicans decided to target poor and disgruntled southern whites after the 1960s civil rights act. It's called the Southern strategy. Why don't you pick up a book on it? It'll help you out tons.
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Any book you recommend may be biased. I prefer living the actual events as they happen.

If the Republican strategy was to target poor, uneducated, disgruntled whites, why did they continue to vote Democrat instead of Republican? Two main reasons: parents before them were Democrats and lack of education.

When George Wallace ran for President in 1968, that was the only time the southerners didn't vote Democrat. They voted on the Independent ticket for a white racist and as a result cinched the election for Nixon. Now, times have changed and southerners are getting better educated.
 
bicycleman said:
Any book you recommend may be biased. I prefer living the actual events as they happen.

If the Republican strategy was to target poor, uneducated, disgruntled whites, why did they continue to vote Democrat instead of Republican? Two main reasons: parents before them were Democrats and lack of education.

When George Wallace ran for President in 1968, that was the only time the southerners didn't vote Democrat. They voted on the Independent ticket for a white racist and as a result cinched the election for Nixon. Now, times have changed and southerners are getting better educated.
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Here, have a starter course: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy]Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
bicycleman said:
Any book you recommend may be biased. I prefer living the actual events as they happen.
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That's great for you. Too bad your experience means dick to most people.

If the Republican strategy was to target poor, uneducated, disgruntled whites, why did they continue to vote Democrat instead of Republican? Two main reasons: parents before them were Democrats and lack of education.

When George Wallace ran for President in 1968, that was the only time the southerners didn't vote Democrat. They voted on the Independent ticket for a white racist and as a result cinched the election for Nixon. Now, times have changed and southerners are getting better educated.
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Southern whites did NOT continue to vote Democrat for much longer after the 60s - In fact - The south as a region is now a Republican stronghold with the last Democrat enclaves being situated in the more urbanized regions(cities). This was not because of education. The South as a region is still highly uneducated with some of the lowest literacy rates in the country. It has NOTHING to do with 'education'. It has to do with political strategy and appealing to certain groups of voters.
 
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That's great for you. Too bad your experience means dick to most people.



Southern whites did NOT continue to vote Democrat for much longer after the 60s - In fact - The south as a region is now a Republican stronghold with the last Democrat enclaves being situated in the more urbanized regions(cities). This was not because of education. The South as a region is still highly uneducated with some of the lowest literacy rates in the country. It has NOTHING to do with 'education'. It has to do with political strategy and appealing to certain groups of voters.
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I 1968 I was 22 and got to vote for the first time in my life. I was no snot-nosed 18-year old who had no clue about life, or the candidates. I had studied them and voted for the best man. It was the year we got to vote for liquor by the drink at restaurants. Back then no self respecting southerner would be seen voting for a carpet bagger Republican. It was all Democrat. Hubert Humphrey was running then on the Democrat ticket and would have become President if it had not been for former Democrat, George Wallace, who ran against both Nixon and Humphrey on an Independent ticket. He received 9 million votes, one of which was mine. If it hadn't been for him, Humphrey would have been a shoe-in, but alas, he lost to Nixon. The same little thing was pulled when Perot ran for President and assured the election went to Clinton. You just can't beat being a part of that history. That is how the truth gets into history books. Yet, people like you, who have never been there, only read it in a book, and a biased one at that, are now writing history. It's frightening how our true history is being destroyed all for political correctness.
 
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bicycleman said:
I 1968 I was 22 and got to vote for the first time in my life. I was no snot-nosed 18-year old who had no clue about life, or the candidates. I had studied them and voted for the best man. It was the year we got to vote for liquor by the drink at restaurants. Back then no self respecting southerner would be seen voting for a carpet bagger Republican. It was all Democrat. Hubert Humphrey was running then on the Democrat ticket and would have become President if it had not been for former Democrat, George Wallace, who ran against both Nixon and Humphrey on an Independent ticket. He received 9 million votes, one of which was mine. If it hadn't been for him, Humphrey would have been a shoe-in, but alas, he lost to Nixon. The same little thing was pulled when Perot ran for President and assured the election went to Clinton. You just can't beat being a part of that history. That is how the truth gets into history books. Yet, people like you, who have never been there, only read it in a book, and a biased one at that, are now writing history. It's frightening how our true history is being destroyed all for political correctness.
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That's great for you. Refute anything I've said. You haven't. Why?
 
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Hatuey said:
Education has nothing to do with it. It has to do with historical trends. Republicans decided to target poor and disgruntled southern whites after the 1960s civil rights act. It's called the Southern strategy. Why don't you pick up a book on it? It'll help you out tons.
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The Southern Strategy is irrelevant now, when Republicans can rely on the South to vote for them, and it was irrelevant then, when most Southern states voted for Allan.

And it's not so much about education as income, though of course the two are linked. Like all other groups, blacks are more likely to vote Republican the higher their income (to a point), so their poor economic situation compared to whites probably doesn't help the GOP.

Incidentally, blacks poll the same numbers as Republicans on most social issues:
Blacks as Conservative as Republicans on Some Moral Issues

And 33% of blacks identify themselves as conservative, only 7-10% below the national average:
African-Americans Drive Liberal Uptick | John W. Pope Civitas Institute



EDIT: Apparently this is my 2,00th post. Hooray. That banner at the top freaked me out when I saw my name on it though.
 
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Hatuey said:
That's great for you. Refute anything I've said. You haven't. Why?
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You haven't read anything I have posted with understanding because you are too busy thinking of a retort. I'm going to retire for the evening. You will then have time to mull over what I have written. The answers are hidden, but I know you can find them.
 
Republicans don't have to carry a huge percentage of the Black vote.......President Bush won with 9 and 11 percent and if they ever got up to 20 percent it would be curtains for the dems..........
 
Aunt Spiker said:
This is from a study guide from my final exam - but I thought it would be interesting to see what everyone thinks.
(the answer is #5)
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Answer #5 is wrong, It's # 1 & 2
 
liblady said:
did dems ever have a stronghold with southerners?
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Yes, from post-Reconstruction, to the Civil Rights Act of 1965, the Southern states were majority Democratic. [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South]Solid South - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
liblady said:
right....but the didn't have a stronghold in recent times, so how could they have lost it?
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There were lots of southern whites who voted for Obama because they were fed up with the Bush mantra. Well, now we have the Obama mantra. Let's see how things turn out in 2012.
 
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