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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    The Raw Story Feingold: ‘Sneak-and-peek’ searches being used for regular crimes
    The Justice Department made 763 requests for "sneak-and-peek" warrants in 2008, but only three of those had to with terrorism investigations, Sen. Russ Feingold told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday.

    "Sneak-and-peek" warrants allow law enforcement officials to break into homes and businesses and search the premises without the investigated party knowing. The authority for them was passed as part of the USA Patriot Act in late 2001, ostensibly as a counter-terrorism measure

    Nobody knows the number because the Politicians cannot release the numbers for brownie points, as we'd find them lying out of their ass.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    perchance you could provide examples?


    They have been highlighted in the news...You need to keep up...........
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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    I would put the number at at least a dozen less than your estimate.
    Why am I not surprised?
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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    I can't think of a better expression than the following when thinking of government:

    You give it an inch and it takes a mile.

    This is why a 'little bit' of loss of freedoms and rights in exchange for a 'little bit' of security rapidly snowballs into all out oppression and expansion of government. Again, karma. People, out of irrational fear, handed up their rights on the holy altar of fighting terrorism.

    Hook, line, sinker. How do you plan on getting those rights back now? That's what I want to know. You have a decade's civil rights battle ahead of you if not more, and that's assuming the 'security' measures don't increase all the while, and you know they will.

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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    What, you expected the ACLU to be honest/accurate?
    What is dishonest and inaccurate in pointing out that Obama keeps some of these extensions in place, and criticising him for this?
    Do think before you post.

    Obama has not turned out to be the "radical" some were hoping for and others feared him to be, which was already apparent for anyone looking beyond the partisan pre-election pro and con.

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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    What is dishonest and inaccurate in pointing out that Obama keeps some of these extensions in place, and criticising him for this?
    Do think before you post.

    Obama has not turned out to be the "radical" some were hoping for and others feared him to be, which was already apparent for anyone looking beyond the partisan pre-election pro and con.

    Of course, his supporters would never see him for the radical he is, but he routinely disregards the Constitution whenever he appoints more radicals as his czars to do his radical bidding. He goes to foreign countries to bad mouth his country and for that receives a Nobel Peace Prize. Then again some recent recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize call that supposed "coveted" award into question.

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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They have been highlighted in the news...You need to keep up...........
    see, here's the problem, the entire world dosent recieve american news services, which may come as a surprise to you, and i detest mainstream news services in any case, oh and incase you didnt figure it out, i dont live in america

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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Of course, his supporters would never see him for the radical he is, but he routinely disregards the Constitution whenever he appoints more radicals as his czars to do his radical bidding. He goes to foreign countries to bad mouth his country and for that receives a Nobel Peace Prize. Then again some recent recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize call that supposed "coveted" award into question.
    obama getting the nobel is crap, he only got it for not being george bush, when the nominations went in he had only been in office two weeks, i doubt he could've made any sort of impact on world peace in that time

    so i reiterate, pplease provide some examples
    Last edited by spud_meister; 12-11-09 at 08:33 AM.

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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    see, here's the problem, the entire world dosent recieve american news services, which may come as a surprise to you, and i detest mainstream news services in any case, oh and incase you didnt figure it out, i dont live in america
    Lately, I have checked out the British news sites for a different perspective. You get news about this country you don't get here, even on Fox.

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    Re: Extension of Patriot Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post

    You have a decade's civil rights battle ahead of you if not more, and that's assuming the 'security' measures don't increase all the while, and you know they will.
    What would be the point though? No one wants to fight anymore, and the ones who do normally work for the government and they'll obey whatever the government tells them to do even if that means arresting/killing a freedom fighter. No one wants to freedom they want false security and the like.

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