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Thread: How do you feel about income?

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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Right now? I'd say that the level of income disparity is a problem and would prefer that growth slow a little bit to rectify this. Things have gotten out of hand in corporate America and it's causing a number of other problems in our society.

    In general? I prefer growth to stability.

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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    So what if the other guy's doing well? That doesn't mean that I, or anyone else is getting harmed as a result.
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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    So what if the other guy's doing well? That doesn't mean that I, or anyone else is getting harmed as a result.
    The higher the income disparity, the smaller the middle class. That's a recipe for social instability-- and when a handful of people are making thousands of times as much money as their employees, it means large amounts of money are being siphoned out of the productive economy instead of circulating properly.

    It also means that our society is going to spend too much money for welfare for people at the bottom of society, instead of paying them proper wages for their labor.

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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't care about income disparity. the only time people should make the same wage is when they work for the same company, at the same level, and perform identically.
    Whoa! Perform identically? Are you saying that a person who does the same job, at he same level, but out performs his co-worker should get paid more?

    What if his co-worker is a female? Or a minority?

    I think we all know the answer to that question.
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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Whoa! Perform identically? Are you saying that a person who does the same job, at he same level, but out performs his co-worker should get paid more?

    What if his co-worker is a female? Or a minority?

    I think we all know the answer to that question.
    What does being a female or a minority have to do with this discussion?

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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Would you rather have people be more wealthy or wealth more tightly distributed?
    Income by itself is a meaningless number without corresponding information about cost of living. For instance, would you prefer to be paid $125,000 in area A or $75,000 in area B without knowing how much it cost to live in either?

    Hard to make a decision no? Likewise, I need to know outflows to make an educated choice in your poll.
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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Income by itself is a meaningless number without corresponding information about cost of living. For instance, would you prefer to be paid $125,000 in area A or $75,000 in area B without knowing how much it cost to live in either?

    Hard to make a decision no? Likewise, I need to know outflows to make an educated choice in your poll.
    If you live a wealthier life. Just take it to mean that you can get more of the things that you want.

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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    If you live a wealthier life. Just take it to mean that you can get more of the things that you want.
    Except that isn't quite relevant between the poll choices. Increasing income disparity where cost of living is insane is quite different from increasing disparity where even the poor people can live well. Wealth is a relative concept dependent upon costs. Right now we consider $1 not to be of much wealth. Back in the 1850s $1 was a sizable chunk of change.
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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    It doesn't have to be an either or choice.

    Henry Ford figured it our nearly a hundred years ago: Pay the workers a decent wage, and they can buy the products that they produce. If they can buy those products, then the captains of industry can make more money, since they have a market.

    If the average American has money, then business has a market, and that business can not only hire more workers, but can pay its CEO a high salary. If the average American doesn't have money, then business doesn't have a market, and everyone suffers, whether they're the floor sweeper or the head honcho.

    So, the way to have a high pay for some is to make it possible for everyone to have a decent wage. It's called the percolate up theory. Unlike the trickle down theory, the percolate up theory actually works, and doesn't depend on voodoo economics.

    We really should try it.
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    Re: How do you feel about income?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Except that isn't quite relevant between the poll choices. Increasing income disparity where cost of living is insane is quite different from increasing disparity where even the poor people can live well. Wealth is a relative concept dependent upon costs. Right now we consider $1 not to be of much wealth. Back in the 1850s $1 was a sizable chunk of change.
    Just consider a graph where the x-axis is the wealth that you have and the y-axis is amount of people. Would you rather the distribution be tighter about some value on the x-axis or where everyone moves up on the x-axis but the distribution grows larger?

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