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    58 45.67%
  • United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

    46 36.22%
  • Cinquième République de la France (Fifth Republic of France)

    12 9.45%
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    And now it wants to come back.

    For over 30+ years, NATO has gotten along fine without it.
    And it is back as of last year
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Umm no offence OP (Gerstle) but the United Kingdom of Great Britain is Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland respectively. There is no UK & NI. Its a contradiction in terms.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The UK has the better military because it is better trained and better armed wit better technology. It could hands down beat the snot out of France or Germany's military. Any day of the week.
    While the UK's military is certainly far stronger than that of Germany, France's military is, in fact, slightly stronger than the United Kingdom's.
    The UK military is well more advanced and armed than France or Germany. Sorry, but that's the truth.
    The UK's military actually has the poorest quality weapons out of the three nations, mainly due to the French and German arms manufacturers firms, that produce high-quality weapons for France and Germany, while the UK's arms manufacturers cannot seriously be called 'top quality'.
    All France can do is sell food for oil with Saddam's old regime, and Germany is too busy pretending WW II never happened.
    Contrary to popular belief, France is very politically active in the world, and its government embraces an interventionist foreign policy.
    It is engaging in mediation in many areas around the world, to solve conflicts and such, and is very active on the peace keeping front, especially in Africa.
    You do know how reliant Japan is on America, right?
    More of a reliant on Americans rather than America.


    The parts of your post that I didn't quote are parts that I fully agree with.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Umm no offence OP (Gerstle) but the United Kingdom of Great Britain is Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland respectively. There is no UK & NI. Its a contradiction in terms.
    The 'United Kingdom' part includes Wales and Scotland

    It should have been 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' but no need to be picky :P

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    And it is back as of last year
    Well ... That goes to show, I didn't even notice it had already rejoined.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The 'United Kingdom' part includes Wales and Scotland

    It should have been 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' but no need to be picky :P
    GB doesnt include NI? Damn.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    GB doesnt include NI? Damn.
    Great Britain is comprised of England, Scotland, and Wales only. Its very common for people to add NI in it but it's not right.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    What? The UK have almost no say in the EU. France is the political power, Germany the military power. As long as these two cooperate, the power of the UK is virtually meaningless.

    No UK policies have been implemented in Europe the past 30 years.
    Germany = the Economic power. Sorry...
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's all crap within Europe doing stupid crap. Overall for global concerns, out of Europe it's the UK which is listened to the most. It's almost always America and the UK. France can talk about crap with the EU, but worldwide no one cares about the EU. The biggest power out of Western Europe is the UK in terms of military and politics.
    Nah. French policies within Europe is forming the whole contient, and is now the most viable global policy. I suggest you read up on what is actually happening in Europe, most people are quite ignorant of it.

    Mark Leonard is a British person with quite a rich insight into the workings of the EU. I suggest you perhaps read his book, which is rather short but a good summary. Also Jermey Rifkin has written a more extensive book about what the EU is and becoming, and how European policies are influencing world evens and will continue to do so far more than US and UK policies already and the foreseeable future.

    France is the political driver of the European project and the German economy is an engine of not just the European economy but the world economy. Without German quality export we would be left with "outsourced American stuff"(computer technology) and Chinese "junk".
    I bet many people also underestimate the Japanses economy and its massive role in the modern world.

    France and the UK are equal military powers in all ways, while Germany is quite weak, and Italy underestimated.

    The UK global contribution is nothing short of American ideas, the British have not had any independent foreign policy since the world war.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's because Europe is often though of in terms of East and West.
    The re-uniting of west and east is massivly underestimated. Imagine getting a huge number of highly educated, highly motivated people into your economy at the same time. That has never before happened, and is happening in Western Europe now. On the other side, no economy has ever integrated a low priced economy into a high priced economy. Eastern Europe has massive potential, and western Europe is free to use it.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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