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  • United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

    46 36.22%
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    12 9.45%
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Russia militarily, no question. Germany economically, no question. Britain and France culturally, difficult to decide which is the more influential. Spain sportingly, no question.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    The correct answer is of course Russia hands down. hey have the most nuclear weapons and delivery systems by far.

    You can claim that Russia doesn't count by they are in both Europe and Asia spanning the continent.

    Much of their military infrastructure is rusting into oblivion, however Vladimir Putin, has put great effort and untold billions into a stepped up modernization effort.

    When the question of military power and France are mentioned in the same breath those of us who know their History will always have a nagging question as to their willingness to use it even in the face of being over run.

    Briton has a well equipped well trained ground force and powerful Navy and plenty of Nuclear weapons at there disposal as does France. We Know the Briton is a tough proud Nation that has come out on top in the face of overwhelming odds in WW-II and I am reminded of the Falkland Island war where they had to travel thousands of miles of open sea and operate with no land bases and defeat a will equipped foe.

    Germany does not have its own nuclear weapons under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that it signed in 1975, but it is thought to be sharing U.S. bombs. Germany is not in the running because they do not have control over their own ultimate weapons.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Russia but isn't this question like asking who was the hottest East German female swimmer circa 1980?



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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    I would say Germany. They have a powerful economy, a larger population, and don't have a huge debt problem like the rest of Europe. They have extremely high taxes, but I think they pay as they go. (I could be wrong though.)
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The correct answer is of course Russia hands down. hey have the most nuclear weapons and delivery systems by far.

    You can claim that Russia doesn't count by they are in both Europe and Asia spanning the continent.

    Much of their military infrastructure is rusting into oblivion, however Vladimir Putin, has put great effort and untold billions into a stepped up modernization effort.

    When the question of military power and France are mentioned in the same breath those of us who know their History will always have a nagging question as to their willingness to use it even in the face of being over run.

    Briton has a well equipped well trained ground force and powerful Navy and plenty of Nuclear weapons at there disposal as does France. We Know the Briton is a tough proud Nation that has come out on top in the face of overwhelming odds in WW-II and I am reminded of the Falkland Island war where they had to travel thousands of miles of open sea and operate with no land bases and defeat a will equipped foe.

    Germany does not have its own nuclear weapons under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that it signed in 1975, but it is thought to be sharing U.S. bombs. Germany is not in the running because they do not have control over their own ultimate weapons.
    I am consistently confounded by the willful ignorance of the American people towards the proud military history of France. I don't really understand how Americans (of all people) can say that France is a cowardly nation, when you compare the two side-by-side.

    If you can give me a single instance outside of the World-War II blitzkrieg of France giving up without a fight (and it ought be noted that in the Second World War, France didn't give up without a fight, and even went on to become a vital part of the war effort even in the face of occupation), I'll admit total defeat. France is, has been, and always will be a militarily powerful and courageous nation -- and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this.

    Furthermore, I might note that America has lost more wars than the French Republic has, and they were both created in the same time-frame (the end of the 18th century).

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Russia but isn't this question like asking who was the hottest East German female swimmer circa 1980?
    I'm not sure what you mean. Are you attempting to insinuate that Britain, France and Russia are not powerful?

    Because that would just truly be a statement made in total ignorance.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I am consistently confounded by the willful ignorance of the American people towards the proud military history of France. I don't really understand how Americans (of all people) can say that France is a cowardly nation, when you compare the two side-by-side.

    If you can give me a single instance outside of the World-War II blitzkrieg of France giving up without a fight (and it ought be noted that in the Second World War, France didn't give up without a fight, and even went on to become a vital part of the war effort even in the face of occupation), I'll admit total defeat. France is, has been, and always will be a militarily powerful and courageous nation -- and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this.

    Furthermore, I might note that America has lost more wars than the French Republic has, and they were both created in the same time-frame (the end of the 18th century).
    ever googled wars france won? As my late grandfather (who was decorated by Petain with the croix de Guerre for saving several hundred French in "the Great war") noted, all the brave frenchmen were killed off in that war as they charged Maxim guns. Those left to breed were the yellow bellies and what they produced was the cowards who gave into the Third Reich.

    you all didn't do any better in Vietnam. you all lost in WWII-we didn't.



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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ever googled wars france won? As my late grandfather (who was decorated by Petain with the croix de Guerre for saving several hundred French in "the Great war") noted, all the brave frenchmen were killed off in that war as they charged Maxim guns. Those left to breed were the yellow bellies and what they produced was the cowards who gave into the Third Reich.

    you all didn't do any better in Vietnam. you all lost in WWII-we didn't.
    Yes, what a hilarious joke, google French victories, and some tool has payed to get his site full of anti-French slander in the first slot. How impressive.

    Anyway, I'd like you to note how it was the Free French Army, under Charles de Gaulle, that re-captured Paris in the Second World War -- and it was the Free French in North Africa that cornered Rommel in his Egyptian hole -- and it was the French Resistance that made the entirety of the D-Day landings possible.

    Secondly, I don't recall the Americans faring very well in Vietnam, either -- nor in Korea, nor Angola, nor Cuba. Whereas the French, during the Cold War period, managed to put down revolt in Algeria, retake the Suez Canal (until political mitigation gave it to Nasser), and inflict more casualties on the North Vietnamese in a single battle (Dien Bien Phu) than the Americans did in three years.

    Furthermore, I noticed you didn't respond to the fact that America has lost more wars than the French Republic has, in their equal time here on Earth. I'll also note that America has not seen the great military and political minds that France has seen, even in that time frame -- to name a few, Napoleon Bonaparte and his numerous victories against pretty much every other nation on Earth (it took a seventh try by all of those combined nations to bring him down), Napoleon III and his successes in the Crimean War and in colonial Africa, Charles de Gaulle and his victories against the Nazis in Europe and then the Muslim insurgents in Algeria...

    I'd also like to note that one of the wars America lost was the Caribbean War (sometimes called the Quasi-War in the States) TO FRANCE.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Russia cannot properly fund a serious war machine with oil alone. With an economy primarily driven on oil exports (and exports in general), the act of war would do much to temporarily sever many or all trade ties during conflict.

    I have no doubt Germany could become a major military power given time and need. However, it is France that is the major military power in Europe, not GB. IMHO of course or until they surrender
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Yes, what a hilarious joke, google French victories, and some tool has payed to get his site full of anti-French slander in the first slot. How impressive.

    Anyway, I'd like you to note how it was the Free French Army, under Charles de Gaulle, that re-captured Paris in the Second World War -- and it was the Free French in North Africa that cornered Rommel in his Egyptian hole -- and it was the French Resistance that made the entirety of the D-Day landings possible.

    Secondly, I don't recall the Americans faring very well in Vietnam, either -- nor in Korea, nor Angola, nor Cuba. Whereas the French, during the Cold War period, managed to put down revolt in Algeria, retake the Suez Canal (until political mitigation gave it to Nasser), and inflict more casualties on the North Vietnamese in a single battle (Dien Bien Phu) than the Americans did in three years.

    Furthermore, I noticed you didn't respond to the fact that America has lost more wars than the French Republic has, in their equal time here on Earth. I'll also note that America has not seen the great military and political minds that France has seen, even in that time frame -- to name a few, Napoleon Bonaparte and his numerous victories against pretty much every other nation on Earth (it took a seventh try by all of those combined nations to bring him down), Napoleon III and his successes in the Crimean War and in colonial Africa, Charles de Gaulle and his victories against the Nazis in Europe and then the Muslim insurgents in Algeria...

    I'd also like to note that one of the wars America lost was the Caribbean War (sometimes called the Quasi-War in the States) TO FRANCE.
    we attacked cuba with our military? angola? yeah those french really were able to do all that on their own in WWII
    dien bien phu-yeah that was an astounding French victory.

    what wars did we lose? help me out on that one. remind me who occupied us for 6 years and who most of our leaders collaborated with during the occupation.

    your best fighting force is called the FOREIGN LEGION.

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